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    Default Re: Why are we Americans so focused on things like honor, loyalty, respect etc in Sports?

    Quote Originally Posted by NumberSix
    Americans value brands more than people.
    Which is why it's purely why it's a superstar league, not a team based one

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    Default Re: Why are we Americans so focused on things like honor, loyalty, respect etc in Sports?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trentknicks
    Which is why it's purely why it's a superstar league, not a team based one
    It is a superstar league because after Jordan made so much money off the court and for the bulls, superstars know their value.
    It is still looked down upon to be a player fan instead of being a team fan even if the owner is an idiot who never puts a good team on the court. You have so many Jordan, Kobe, lebron fans who pretend to be bulls, Lakers, cavs fans just so they don't get called out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose'sACL
    It is a superstar league because after Jordan made so much money off the court and for the bulls, superstars know their value.
    It is still looked down upon to be a player fan instead of being a team fan even if the owner is an idiot who never puts a good team on the court. You have so many Jordan, Kobe, lebron fans who pretend to be bulls, Lakers, cavs fans just so they don't get called out.
    That wasn't the context I meant it in, I mean look at the advertising. It's no longer "The Rockets VS The Clippers" it's more like "Blake Griffin and CP3 take on Harden and Dwight".

    But the main reason is that most of the American media and fans, for some reason, have such a wild obsession with forcing a storyline or angle on everything instead of just letting it play out like it should. No other nation does that with their sport, period.

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    Sports in America is a metaphor for war. Not saying other countries do not treat sports the same but America takes it seriously like warfare/

    So that's why when ray Allen left the celts to sign with the heat, he is a Benedict Arnold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trentknicks
    That wasn't the context I meant it in, I mean look at the advertising. It's no longer "The Rockets VS The Clippers" it's more like "Blake Griffin and CP3 take on Harden and Dwight".

    But the main reason is that most of the American media and fans, for some reason, have such a wild obsession with forcing a storyline or angle on everything instead of just letting it play out like it should. No other nation does that with their sport, period.

    they also pride themselves in low unemployment rate. while other countries, such as France, would be labled as "lazy" in the American eyes with how many people aren't working and their work hours.

    they appreciate capitalism, but every individual also look at different aspects in life as a way to get away from the cut-throat nature of it all.

    again, Christianity and its value of giving is also another big fundamental parts to it all.

    mixing them together, is a not for profit business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose'sACL
    It is a superstar league because after Jordan made so much money off the court and for the bulls, superstars know their value.
    It is still looked down upon to be a player fan instead of being a team fan even if the owner is an idiot who never puts a good team on the court. You have so many Jordan, Kobe, lebron fans who pretend to be bulls, Lakers, cavs fans just so they don't get called out.
    or they are just team fans who doesn't believe the team deserve its full support when they put up shitty performances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9512
    Sports in America is a metaphor for war. Not saying other countries do not treat sports the same but America takes it seriously like warfare/

    So that's why when ray Allen left the celts to sign with the heat, he is a Benedict Arnold.
    everyone finds their own way to put passion into sports.

    have you ever heard of the term sub-culture?

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    Default Re: Why are we Americans so focused on things like honor, loyalty, respect etc in Sports?

    Quote Originally Posted by Godzuki
    honestly the way Barcelona stacks is fukking lame

    Same with the way the Yankee's stack
    few years ago, when Barcelona won 6 out of 6 trophies possible. Breaking a bunch of record in their way and many considering that team the best ever they had 8 starters that cost the club "nothing" (salaries aside) as they came through the youth ranks, this included valdes, puyol, pique, xavi, iniesta, busquets, messi , pedro...

    Yankee's comparison would be Real Madrid, Chelsea or PSG, that sign players on spending power alone.

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    Default Re: Why are we Americans so focused on things like honor, loyalty, respect etc in Sports?

    OP has forgotten about this shitstorm:


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    Default Re: Why are we Americans so focused on things like honor, loyalty, respect etc in Sports?

    Quote Originally Posted by ALBballer

    Gotze and Lewandowski both left their small market team for the German powerhouse and there is not much of a controversy over "betrayal" or other things commonly cited in American media. Gotze has been playing for Borussia at their youth academy since the age of 8.

    Sure the hooligans get pissed but your average fan is another story. People in America generally dislike Lebron James. Now he is loved by all. And this includes myself.


    dont listen to this idiot, there was huge controversy and watzke's (sort of GM of dortmund) reaction was similar to dan gilberts when lebron left

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    Default Re: Why are we Americans so focused on things like honor, loyalty, respect etc in Sports?

    Probably because it's so lacking in our society. Just like we will bring up morality and doing the right thing when no one does. It's something you can rarely find so everyone is fair game. Also add playing by the rules to that.

    -Smak

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    Default Re: Why are we Americans so focused on things like honor, loyalty, respect etc in Sports?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rubio2Gasol
    I can't disagree more.

    Have you been to Spain? Have you been to Italy? Loyalty and tradition is cherished here, more than any other aspect of the game. Players are allowed to transfer because they're all Lebron esque prima donnas with no concept of.what it means to give your soul.to a club. Sport itself is deteriorating because of people like this.

    The idea Van Persia can leave Arsenal after what Wenger did fornhim , the idea Ronaldo would leave united. Its disgraceful.
    When Figo went to Real and then returned to Barcelona's stadium for a game, fans threw pig heads at him.

    European sports were amateur up until a point it time, I don't know if that was ever the case in the US. People would become associated with teams in the past, it's more difficult now because they're all "professionals" but I don't know many fans who enjoy this new reality and you still get old-fashioned footballers like Puyol.



    Why doesn't anyone burn all the jerseys of all the players that move in a transfer window? I think it's because we're not as crazy and in love with a single person here. People follow teams and their team, its history, always stays there. Fans can be pissed off at someone but in the end the team goes on, as does life outside of being fan of course.

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    Default Re: Why are we Americans so focused on things like honor, loyalty, respect etc in Sports?

    Quote Originally Posted by SpanishACB
    few years ago, when Barcelona won 6 out of 6 trophies possible. Breaking a bunch of record in their way and many considering that team the best ever they had 8 starters that cost the club "nothing" (salaries aside) as they came through the youth ranks, this included valdes, puyol, pique, xavi, iniesta, busquets, messi , pedro...

    Yankee's comparison would be Real Madrid, Chelsea or PSG, that sign players on spending power alone.
    They obviously have a new policy now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OmniStrife
    OP has forgotten about this shitstorm:

    This.

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