when Kobe hangs them up where will he be on the GOAT list

[gyu]

4-5 at worst

What about at best?

[HOoopCityJones]

Only player in NBA history to score at least 600 points in the postseason for three consecutive years.

633- 2008
695- 2009
671- 2010

[warriorfan]

What about at best?

2 or 3

[BBallZen83]

A really mature person(Kobetard) might use the eye test and say number 3.

I'm guessing that non-LeBron fans (reasonable people) will put him between 5-9 though. Which is tough but fair.

branstans will have him 11 or lower, showing their true colors as usual.

I think that's what you meant to say.

[HOoopCityJones]

I think that's what you meant to say.

You've admitted to me personally that you're a Lebron stan.

[tpols]

What about lebron leading scrub teams to the finals or at least past round 1?
Larry hughes was his 2nd option in 07(lebrons 4th year) and he took that team to the finals; depth was utter shit too. But lebron is the best of any star with the least talent

Why does Lebron get to play the Wizards and Nets on their last legs while kobe has to face the prime suns and then, if he were to even get by that, prime spurs and then have you guys come in here talking about getting past the first round like the opponents were the same ??

[BBallZen83]

You've admitted to me personally that you're a Lebron stan.

Yeah... I also think I'm more reasonable than most. I personally have Kobe ranked over Lebron for now.

I don't know. I definitely consider myself a fan of his. Maybe since I have followed him in Cleveland and Miami that makes me a stan, but I don't say illogical retarded stuff in an effort to get a rise out of people (or because I truly believe it), like many Kobe and Lebron "stans"

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Fringe top 5

Kobes one of my faves ever but hes not in his prime anymore so he aint gon be added more high quality seasons

[dubeta]

When in doubt, PER is the ultimate arbitrator




18th sounds about right...

[Ne 1]

When in doubt, PER is the ultimate arbitrator

John Hollinger is a nerd who likes math more than basketball. He once said himself he watches just 4 games a year. These formulas like PER actually hurt basketball discussions. It's sad people actually take them seriously. Hollinger applies subjective values to each area of the game.

[rmt]

John Hollinger is a nerd who likes math more than basketball. He once said himself he watches just 4 games a year. These formulas like PER actually hurt basketball discussions. It's sad people actually take them seriously. Hollinger applies subjective values to each area of the game.

Isn't it strange how so many of these advanced stats don't show up Kobe in a flattering light? But for others, these just SCREAM out at you?

Assuming that Kobe hangs them up next season or the season after, he'll stay where he is (to me, at #9) if Lebron doesn't increase his ring/fmvp count. It's unlikely that Kobe can get any higher - barring some miracle injuries to every team. The only place he can go is down - depending on what Lebron or any other great player in the future does.

[Cold soul]

Kobe ranks about 5-9 range is where majority have him not higher or lower.

[TheBigVeto]

#48423

[Carter_17]

He is THE GOAT. Top1. 1-9 is too much to just let it pass.

[Ne 1]

Isn't it strange how so many of these advanced stats don't show up Kobe in a flattering light? But for others, these just SCREAM out at you?

What do you base this on? Also, is what I said not true? PER is subjective and a flawed stat. Hollinger gave the most value to what he felt was most important. Essentially, anyone could create a similar stat to PER crediting one category more than another, and thus the list would change.

It isn't anymore viable then if anyone on this site were to make a formula up with their personal beliefs of how stats should be valued.