Would Kobe retire with Duncan having one more ring than him?

[sportjames23]

ring counting. nice.

you casual, youtube jordan fans are the absolute worst. no knowledge lmao

Man, go play in traffic.

[kennethgriffin]

if duncan wins a 6th it would be worse for his legacy than retiring with 5



people would instantly give his 6 the clarity and scrutiny it deserves since jordan fans would join the belittling debate


3 of his 6 would be less valuable than kobes 1st


2000 kobe is more respectful than:

2007 2nd fiddle to parker
2014 3rd fiddle to parker/kawhi
2016 6th man to parker/kawhi/aldridge/green/manu





people would really start bashing duncan for once if he tied MJ... i hope he does it

[mehyaM24]

if duncan wins a 6th it would be worse for his legacy than retiring with 5



people would instantly give his 6 the clarity and scrutiny it deserves since jordan fans would join the belittling debate


3 of his 6 would be less valuable than kobes 1st


2000 kobe is more respectful than:

2007 2nd fiddle to parker
2014 3rd fiddle to parker/kawhi
2016 6th man to parker/kawhi/aldridge/green/manu





people would really start bashing duncan for once if he tied MJ... i hope he does it

which is why ring counting is dumb, and used by fans that know nothing about the game outside of highlights & dunks.

in op's case, space jam.

[SouBeachTalents]

if duncan wins a 6th it would be worse for his legacy than retiring with 5



people would instantly give his 6 the clarity and scrutiny it deserves since jordan fans would join the belittling debate


3 of his 6 would be less valuable than kobes 1st


2000 kobe is more respectful than:

2007 2nd fiddle to parker
2014 3rd fiddle to parker/kawhi
2016 6th man to parker/kawhi/aldridge/green/manu





people would really start bashing duncan for once if he tied MJ... i hope he does it

Duncan was not 2nd fiddle to Parker. Parker outplayed him for 4 games against a vastly inferior team, Duncan was the Spurs best player in '07 throughout the regular season and first 3 rounds of the playoffs.

Kobe was as clear cut a 2nd fiddle as you can have, and got outscored by over 22 ppg by Shaq in the Finals. Hell, Shaq averaged more rpg than Kobe averaged ppg

'07 Duncan >>> '00 Kobe

[sportjames23]

which is why ring counting is dumb, and used by fans that know nothing about the game outside of highlights & dunks.

in op's case, space jam.

2/6 has got you so shook up.

[T_L_P]

hmm when was that

Kobe did make a comment about him having one more than Tim in one of those All-Star Game Trax features.

It was in good fun though. Kobe cares about having more than Shaq. I'm sure he wants more than Duncan, but not enough for it to change any retirement decisions.

Edit: it's here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5s4...?v=u5s4jZoOdLc

[kennethgriffin]

my bad. duncan wouldnt even be 6th option. i forgot about david west

duncan might average 8ppg this year if lucky

[Hittin_Shots]

my bad. duncan wouldnt even be 6th option. i forgot about david west

duncan might average 8ppg this year if lucky

You make me wish LeBron had won this year so I wouldn't have to read any of your stupid shit

[kennethgriffin]

which is why ring counting is dumb, and used by fans that know nothing about the game outside of highlights & dunks.

in op's case, space jam.

ring counting isnt dumb. you just gotta know which rings are legit by actually having knowledge of the game


duncans rings in comparrison with others


1999 - waltonesq
2003 - hakeemesq
2005 - reedesq
2007 - gasolesq
2014 - odomesq
2016 - horryesq ( if happened )


kobes


2000 - pippenesq
2001 - jordanesq
2002 - jordanesq
2009 - jordanesq
2010 - jordanesq

[kennethgriffin]

You make me wish LeBron had won this year so I wouldn't have to read any of your stupid shit

i'm sorry

how much do you think duncan will average


considering the spurs have


Lamarcus Aldridge
David West
Kawhi Leonard
Tony Parker
Danny Green
Patty Mills
Manu Ginobili

all getting more shots than tim duncan

[ISHGoat]

kenneth in here still thinking basketball is only about about PPG and stuff like rebounding and defense doesnt matter

duncan > kobe as a player and as a career

deal with it

[kennethgriffin]

kenneth in here still thinking basketball is only about about PPG and stuff like rebounding and defense doesnt matter

duncan > kobe as a player and as a career

deal with it

when comparing guards to bigs its useless to say "this guy was the better rebounder"


it comes with being a PF/C thats 7 feet tall

kobe in comparison to other SG's is one of the greatest rebounders of all time



and both are all time great defenders

its not like duncan ever won a DPOTY... even though the award is geared towards bigs

a F/C also has an unfair advantage in making all nba and all defensive teams


duncan had 36 more chances in his career to make both 1st team all nba and 1st team defense combined ( F/F/C voting slots compared to kobes G/G )


18 for each end x2


yet overall kobe has 20 ( 11 and 9 ) and duncan has 18 ( 10 and 8 )




why is that? yes i know people wanna say duncan was more valuable cause of his position. but duncans played most of his career in an era where Bigs were a dead position. the average big man scores 10 ppg less than a guard


so kobe spent more energy chasing around guys who scored the ball twice as much

its not like dunk/layup attempts in traffic happen more than 4-5 times a game anyway.... most are when a guys wide open

duncan has 1-2 blocks a game. good for him. he saved 2-4 points out of 100



in the end its all pretty even with advantages for each guy based on position


scoring is the only translatable attribute between any position or size

and kobe absolutely blasts tim with fecal matter


its not like bigs dont have the chances to score 25-30... shaq did it


yet duncans sliding by with 15ppg as if hes bill russell averaging 25rpg/anchoring the offense with playmaking and playing the GOAT defense


nope.. its just 15ppg with good rebounding for a 7 footer while not really effecting the outcome when skipping back to backs



next year duncan wont even be needed. he'l be an 8ppg role player 7th option off the bench for 15 minutes a game


that title sure as f*ck wont count because his last one barely did with twice the output

[aj1987]

Kobe is not even close to being on Duncan's level defensively.

[BuffaloBill]

if duncan wins a 6th it would be worse for his legacy than retiring with 5

Stopped reading right there

[kennethgriffin]

Kobe is not even close to being on Duncan's level defensively.

in what way

prime kobe could shut down most star players




its way harder trying to stop a guy that averages 25ppg than a guy that averages 10ppg


duncan defended big men during the sh*t era for big men.. not impressed



and even if duncan was better defensively. kobe has 5 times the scoring accolades/achievements/milestones


and he even has more defensive accolades than duncan.


like i said before. 18 more chances to make 1st team all defense for duncan


if you factor in season ending injuries for kobe.. duncans had even more than that



yet..... kobe = 9 all defensive 1st teams, duncan = 8 al defensive 1st teams




popovich in 2005-06 ( duncans prime )

"i think kobes the most talented player in the league on BOTH ends of the floor" ( both ends = offense AND defense )


duncans own coach thinks kobes a better defender