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One of the Goodfellas
What would Prime Charles Barkley average in today's game?
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Re: What would Prime Charles Barkley average in today's game?
Look at Reggie Evans numbers for a good comparision
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Celtics for life
Re: What would Prime Charles Barkley average in today's game?
Around 27/12/4/2/1 on 57%.
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Good High School Starter
Re: What would Prime Charles Barkley average in today's game?
If he was on the Spurs, he'd be called the greatest PF to ever play the game
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Re: What would Prime Charles Barkley average in today's game?
with the way the game is called today Barkley would average 20 freethrows per game and 15 boards.
That would put him at 28/15/4 on close to 60% shooting.
MVP
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3-time NBA All-Star
Re: What would Prime Charles Barkley average in today's game?
Blake Griffin posted 24/10/4.
Barkley could probably do something like 26/12/5
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Very good NBA starter
Re: What would Prime Charles Barkley average in today's game?
Originally Posted by oarabbus
Blake Griffin posted 24/10/4.
Barkley could probably do something like 26/12/5
Yup But... On Much Higher FG%. Barkley Was Onstoppable Inside The 3-Point Line
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Re: What would Prime Charles Barkley average in today's game?
Originally Posted by JtotheIzzo
with the way the game is called today Barkley would average 20 freethrows per game and 15 boards.
That would put him at 28/15/4 on close to 60% shooting.
MVP
That's better than peak Shaq numbers.
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#MambaOut
Re: What would Prime Charles Barkley average in today's game?
overrated fattie who called out the Lakers recently...
He will be lucky to get 16ppg.
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Re: What would Prime Charles Barkley average in today's game?
Originally Posted by oarabbus
Blake Griffin posted 24/10/4.
Barkley could probably do something like 26/12/5
seems about right on a team like LA...depends on the team he plays for though...
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WHITESIDE
Re: What would Prime Charles Barkley average in today's game?
K Love type numbers probably 24/13/4 on 52% shooting
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Caped Baldy
Re: What would Prime Charles Barkley average in today's game?
Prime Barkley in today's soft era? Probably 25 - 30 ppg with 10+ rpg on 50 - 58 FG%.
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I rule the local playground
Re: What would Prime Charles Barkley average in today's game?
Originally Posted by Angel Face
Prime Barkley in today's soft era? Probably 25 - 30 ppg with 10+ rpg on 50 - 58 FG%.
Dunno, current era isn't soft, it's just bad for low post bangers. I'd expect lower numbers than he had back in the day.
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College star
Re: What would Prime Charles Barkley average in today's game?
Can't really tell exactly, but about the same as he did in his day
Anyways, definitely best PF in the game, top3 player, MVP candidate and certified beast wrecking shit up.
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Decent college freshman
Re: What would Prime Charles Barkley average in today's game?
His perimeter jump shot wasn't that great, at least in the early years. However, he was so effective in the post and off the boards. In the low post the best he is the best I have ever seen, not in terms of moves, but certainly decision making. Nobody aside from perhaps Bird was as effective at passing under pressure, maybe because he was confident he could bust through most double teams and carry them right to the rim where he was finishing at over an 80% clip.
In the first link below we can see a behind the back wrap around pass to Gilliam. We can also hear Pippen telling Perdue to go double Barkley, "Go Will, Go Will", as he is ready to pick up Gilliam but not before the pass is out of Barkley's hands, since then he could also hit Pippen's man Ron Anderson at the top of the key for a jump shot. Pippen knows both players are only one pass away to Barkley out of the post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZtD0lej4Zc&t=3m40s
Right through Grant's legs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsTKc_AKSlU&t=3m35s
Takes Perdue & Grant to the rim from 18 feet out with tremendous ease
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsTKc_AKSlU&t=8m5s
Looks to hit Ruland in heavy traffic, who wasn't expecting it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkAoHTHzaOk&t=5m6s
Below we can see how muscles Pippen and (2nd video) Levingston nearly off the floor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkAoHTHzaOk&t=3m57s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZtD0lej4Zc&t=10m44s
He could also out-quick or fake the opponent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b6athakY1w&t=1m28s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIz6nScvx94&t=1m35s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMygxSdvtlc&t=50s
It is quite amazing how two of the best defensive forwards in the game couldn't do anything with Barkley. Below is an example of two consecutive possessions in the 3rd quarter of the elimination game.
Unsuccessful front by Pippen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgF4gj3LuEw&t=3m26s
Grant again taken to the rim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgF4gj3LuEw&t=4m02s
Even early in the game, it is too easy for Barkley to get the deep position
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt-_m4ROyec&t=8m48s
Sports Illustrated - February 10, 1997
Toughest To Double-team?
The Rockets, though, had the clear edge at dishing off under pressure. According to the pollees, Barkley relies on his experience to make sound snap decisions, while the 7-foot Olajuwon's athleticism enables him to be the best at negating a double team. And, says one coach, "he has the rings to prove it."
Below we can see how compares to LeBron and Shaq around the rim (restricted area). While Shaq's percentage may not be as good, he did have more attempts at the basket. By finish I mean strictly in the half court. LeBron's best season shooting in the restricted area was this past season (2013-14).
http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.ht ... mode=basic
If we use mysynergysports.com to eliminate all 2 Point FG's in transition, we can see the totals below for both Barkley & LeBron. No transition data is available for Shaq.
LeBron James (2013-14) *Including Playoffs
335/437 FG (76.7%), 4.51 Attempts Per Game
Charles Barkley (84 Game Sample)
Synergy Offense
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...5&postcount=41
467/574 FG (81.4%), 6.83 Attempts Per Game
Shaquille O'Neal (1999-00) *Including Playoffs
*No transition data
http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.ht ... on=1999-00
724/966 FG (74.9%), 9.47 Attempts Per Game
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