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    Default Re: Wait a sec - out of Magic/Bird/Shaq/Kobe/Duncan/Wade/Lebron/Isiah/KG/MJ...

    'include wade cuz he would have won in 2011'

    wait what? Clearly he didn't win because he was not good enough to lead the team to the championship which therefore automatically doesn't make him the finals most valuable player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
    He had rosters that could win 55 win games without him, as well. In fact, had that '94 roster not had Pippen and Grant missing 22 games, they likely win their 4th straight title.

    The Lakers before Magic? 47-35. The Lakers after Kareem? 63-19. The Lakers after Magic? 43-39 (and then 39-43.)
    Obsessed with the unimportant regular season win column just like his boy.

    And yet you will always prop up guys who disappear when it really matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nash
    'include wade cuz he would have won in 2011'

    wait what? Clearly he didn't win because he was not good enough to lead the team to the championship which therefore automatically doesn't make him the finals most valuable player.
    Looks like LeSabotage and his pathetic stans think in exactly the same way

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    Default Re: Wait a sec - out of Magic/Bird/Shaq/Kobe/Duncan/Wade/Lebron/Isiah/KG/MJ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Papaya Petee
    No

    Lebron averages 21 PPG the Heat win that series. Wade still gets FMVP.
    Let's be real: if Bron doesn't come back into the game and hijack the offense in order to statpad at the end of game 2, the Heat likely win the series.

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    Jordan is also the only one out of those to quit on his team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dresta
    Let's be real: if Bron doesn't come back into the game and hijack the offense in order to statpad at the end of game 2, the Heat likely win the series.
    In Game 5 after Wade puts the Heat up 99-95 with a 3...Bron holds the ball for the next 4 Possessions coming up 2 missed jumpers on 5'9 Barrea & 38yr old Jason Kidd and 2 Turnovers LeSabotage

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    Default Re: Wait a sec - out of Magic/Bird/Shaq/Kobe/Duncan/Wade/Lebron/Isiah/KG/MJ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dresta
    Obsessed with the unimportant regular season win column just like his boy.

    And yet you will always prop up guys who disappear when it really matters.
    Dresta use this for your new avvy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wade's Rings
    In Game 5 after Wade puts the Heat up 99-95 with a 3...Bron holds the ball for the next 4 Possessions coming up 2 missed jumpers on 5'9 Barrea & 38yr old Jason Kidd and 2 Turnovers LeSabotage
    Of course in the clinching game six defeat, Wade puked all over the floor. After that debacle, the team reigns were turned over to Lebron, and he led a broken down Wade and a worthless Bosh to three Finals, and two rings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
    Of course in the clinching game six defeat, Wade puked all over the floor
    Wade was hurt in Game 6. Puking is having 8 pts in Game 4 with a chance to go up 3-1.

    After that debacle, the team reigns were turned over to Lebron, and he led a broken down Wade and a worthless Bosh to three Finals, and two rings.
    Quote Originally Posted by Papaya Petee
    22/5/5 regular season
    23/5/4 playoffs
    23/6/5 Finals.

    Not to mention, that Wade's playoff numbers were dipped because the Heat completely blew out the Knicks, which limited his minutes, shots, and necessity to shoot. If that series was closer Wades averaging 22-24 in that series not 19 PPG. He didn't have a single weak game that series and wasn't neccessary to produce more.

    If you looked at the playoffs #s and saw 24/5/5 or 25/5/4 you would immediatly say he played like a superstar was just a 2nd option. The difference being 1-2 PPG. Mostly due to the Knicks series.

    Vs Indiana aside from the disasterous 5 point game, Wade was spectacular with Bosh out. 26/6/3 as a second option. Down 1-2 at Indiana a 30/9/6 game. 28 points in a blowout game 5. 41/10/3/2 in game 6 on the road to close out the Pacers.


    In the ECF vs the Celtics for the first 5 games Wade was trapped and doubled on any pick and roll. Doc Rivers chose to double and trap Wade after seeing Wade destroy Indiana in the last 3 games. Yet Wade still had a 22/5/5 series which is great for a "broken down second option"
    17 point game 6 was his weakest game that series with Miami blowing out Boston due to Lebrons legendary game.


    23/6/5 in the finals. Aside from the 19 point game in game 1 (weakest game of the finals) he had 24,25,25,20 point games. As a second option once again "broken down" he was very consistent.

    2013 Wade averages 21/5/5/1/1 on 51% shooting in the regular season, and was amazing during the win streak.
    Obviously he was very injured during the playoffs, but in the first 2 rounds once again his production, shots, and minutes weren't required as the Heat steamrolled through the Bucks and Bulls.

    He was very poor in the 2013 ECF, but finished strong with a 20/5/4 NBA Finals when needed the most. 32/6/4 in a must win game 4, 25/10 in game 5 and 23/10 in a closeout game 7.

    2014 Wade averaged 19/5/5 on 54% FG which are still strong 2nd option #s. He wasn't really injured as much, the Heat coaching stuff just assigned him the most retarded resting schedule ever, which made him out of shape.

    Aside from the finals, where he was disasterous, he had a good run for the first 3 rounds.

    Was at about 20/5/4 for the first 3 rounds. Once again numbers lowered by the Charlotte series where Wades production wasn't neccessary as the Bobcats got easily swept. He had a strong ECF and a strong 2nd round.

    Was he injured? Yes. Was the 2013 playoff horrendous until the finals? Yes. But 2012 he was still a borderline superstar, and a top 10 player in 2013 regular season.
    Are you going to reply to this or keep deflecting?

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    Default Re: Wait a sec - out of Magic/Bird/Shaq/Kobe/Duncan/Wade/Lebron/Isiah/KG/MJ...

    Quote Originally Posted by rmt
    Hakeem didn't have any FMVP team mate. By your reasoning, it's better to have not reached subsequent Finals and risk a team mate getting FMVP.
    This has been conveniently glossed over somehow

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    Default Re: Wait a sec - out of Magic/Bird/Shaq/Kobe/Duncan/Wade/Lebron/Isiah/KG/MJ...

    Quote Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
    Outstanding RESEARCH.

    thank Roundball Rock..

    basically, Rodman 1996 FMVP, LeBron only ATG to n

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    Default Re: Wait a sec - out of Magic/Bird/Shaq/Kobe/Duncan/Wade/Lebron/Isiah/KG/MJ...

    OP is insecure as hell.

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    Default Re: Wait a sec - out of Magic/Bird/Shaq/Kobe/Duncan/Wade/Lebron/Isiah/KG/MJ...

    [QUOTE=ArbitraryWater]thank Roundball Rock..

    basically, Rodman 1996 FMVP, LeBron only ATG to n

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    Default Re: Wait a sec - out of Magic/Bird/Shaq/Kobe/Duncan/Wade/Lebron/Isiah/KG/MJ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bernkastel
    OP is insecure as hell.
    sounds like you're insecure about whether i'm insecure.

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    Default Re: Wait a sec - out of Magic/Bird/Shaq/Kobe/Duncan/Wade/Lebron/Isiah/KG/MJ...

    [QUOTE=ArbitraryWater]thank Roundball Rock..

    basically, Rodman 1996 FMVP, LeBron only ATG to n

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