Is Popovich overrated?

[tamaraw08]

Im NOT saying Gregg is a bad coach, Im just asking if he is indeed rated by most fans and analysts as a GREAT coach.
For me, there are good coaches who can take over an injury riddled team and still manage to stay afloat and win games they are not supposed to win.
Coaches like Rick Adelman who lost Yao and TMac to a TON of games.
Nate McMillan's Blazers who lost Oden, and then Roy and still fighting hard or Jerry Sloan who survived and did good after losing Malone and Stockton to retirement.
Then there are great coaches like Auerbach, Phil who coached and Jordan-less Bulls to a 55-win season.
Hubie Brown who guided a bad Grizzlies team to the playoffs, coached the Knicks, taught them to play great defense etc.
Larry Brown who converted decent teams like the Spurs, Pacers, Sixers into very good, fighting/disciplined teams.
Same with Pat Riley who did great at LA, Knicks and Miami.
Going back to Popovich
He did GREAT with DRobinson, Duncan, Sean Elliot etc,
Then also did well with Manu, Parker and still hall of famer Duncan when they are young and healthy.
but now???
How about the pre Duncan season where he registered a 26% winning percentage, winning just 17 out of 64 games,
or when his team has struggled and lost early in the playoffs?
Is he really great? or he is very good?

[nosfan773]

No coach has done more with less IMO. Regardless of how this series turns out.

GOAT, but its debatable.

[ICanDunk]

You could make the same argument with any winning coach.

How about Doc Rivers' Celtics getting worse every year and him being on the verge of getting fired before Allen and KG came in?

[Miserio]

With Popovich, Kobe and Shaq would have been best friends, shared the rock and win 11 championships.

[Stuckey]

With Popovich, Kobe and Shaq would have been best friends, shared the rock and win 11 championships.

is Phil too laissez faire? i dont think anyone could have contained those two superegos

[L.Kizzle]

You know Aurebach coached pre Russell, hell pre-Celtics ... just putting that out there.

[tamaraw08]

You could make the same argument with any winning coach.

How about Doc Rivers' Celtics getting worse every year and him being on the verge of getting fired before Allen and KG came in?

Did you missed or forget how Doc Rivers coached the Orlando Magic team many years ago?
That Orlando team was full of scrubs and yet did pretty well inspite of their lack of talent.

[SCdac]

No I don't think he's overrated...

I do think too many people use faulty logic around here when it comes to coaches...

as in, "because a coach has done great things in the past, he can never make a mistake in the future"

I like to think most people don't agree with that statement, and don't necessarily have blind faith, no matter who the player or coach.

[ICanDunk]

Did you missed or forget how Doc Rivers coached the Orlando Magic team many years ago?
That Orlando team was full of scrubs and yet did pretty well inspite of their lack of talent.

I was just using an example to prove my point. You can make the "he only won because of he had great players" argument with any coach.

[tamaraw08]

I was just using an example to prove my point. You can make the "he only won because of he had great players" argument with any coach.

What????

Didn't I mentioned Larry Brown, Riley etc who converted decent teams with decent talent into very good teams?

Again guys, don't get me wrong. Im not saying he is not good, I think he is VERY GOOD, but Im not sure if he is great as in he is much better than Sloan, Van Gundy, Adelman.

[jlauber]

How about setting up a final play, and having Gary Neal take the game-tying 3 pt shot?

[ballerz]

he is quite a good coach not great but good

[ICanDunk]

How about setting up a final play, and having Gary Neal take the game-tying 3 pt shot?

That's like a trick play or going for it on fourth down in the NFL. You're either a genius or completely retarded depending on how it plays out.

[jlauber]

he is quite a good coach not great but good

Can you name ALL of the coach's who have guided teams to FOUR NBA titles?

http://www.nbauniverse.com/champions...ith_titles.htm

He is #5 all-time...

[ICanDunk]

Can you name ALL of the coach's who have guided teams to FOUR NBA titles?

http://www.nbauniverse.com/champions...ith_titles.htm

He is #5 all-time...

Phil Jackson
Red Auerbach
Pat Riley
John Kundla
Gregg Popovich