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Old 08-31-2012, 04:49 PM   #91
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Current Results

12- Karl Malone
9- Charles Barkley
8- Elgin Baylor
7- Dirk Nowitzki
6- Isiah Thomas
2- Scottie Pippen
1- David Robinson
1- Rick Barry
1- John Havlicek

This is Why ISH Is Laughable and Sad ...Too Many Kiddos Like Longevity Over Dominance, Efficiency and Impact.

No Other PF Dominated the Mid Range and Post Region More Than Barkley While Being the Most Doubled Player Since Shaq. That, While Recieving More Defensive Rotations and Destroying Zone Defense than Any Other Player Ever

Malone as a "Better Scorer" Is LAUGHABLE (especially in the Play-Offs). He Shot More That is Why He Scored More. He Was Never as Efficient as Barkley was Inside the 3-Point Line...Even as He Got Older. Never, Ever.

Season

Barkley shot 58.13% Two-Point FG at 21.6 PPG on 12.9...Two Point FGAs Pg (Season)

Malone shot 51.9% Two-Point FG FG at 24.7 PPG on 17.5...Two-Point FGAs PG PG (Season)

Play-Offs: "Malone Shot Over 50% For Only 3 Play-Off Runs":

Barkley shot 55.13% FG at 22.5 PPG on 14.5 ...Two-Point FGAs PG (Play-Offs)

Malone shot 46.6% Two-Point FG at 24.6 PPG on 19.3...Two-Point FGAs PG (Play-Offs)

Barkley was a Way Superior Scorer

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Old 08-31-2012, 04:55 PM   #92
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we're not comparing peaks.. but careers
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Old 08-31-2012, 04:58 PM   #93
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we're not comparing peaks.. but careers

Those Stats Have Nothing to Do With Peaks but Actually Whole Careers In Terms of Mid Range and Post Range Scoring.
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Old 08-31-2012, 05:02 PM   #94
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cool. but basketball isnt all about mid-range and post scoring stats
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Old 08-31-2012, 05:07 PM   #95
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cool. but basketball isnt all about mid-range and post scoring stats

True..There is Alot More Things...In Which Barkley Was Better than Malone at Most and Impacting the Game:

-Scoring With High Efficiency
-Recieving More Double Teams and Defensive Rotations
-Being Called the Zone Buster
-Needing Rule Change (5 Second Back to the Basket Rule-Anti Barkley)
-Game Creating and Passing
-Rebounding
-Floor D and Help D: Barkley the Superior Stealer and Shot Blocker.
-Having Big Games in the Play-Offs.
-Being Clutcher

etc

Only Things Malone has Over Barkley was FT Shooting and Man to Man Defense (But he was No Garnett or Duncan)

Barkley Was Better at More Things Than Malone Was Better Than Barkley At.
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Old 08-31-2012, 05:13 PM   #96
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Karl Malone NEEDED John Stockton. I forget the number but the assisted basket percentage of Malone's shots was remarkably high. Not to mention his epic level of choking.....


for me it comes down to Barkley, Hondo and Baylor.

I'll vote for Baylor.
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Old 08-31-2012, 05:15 PM   #97
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True..There is Alot More Things...In Which Barkley Was Better than Malone at Most and Impacting the Game:

-Scoring With High Efficiency
-Recieving More Double Teams and Defensive Rotations
-Being Called the Zone Buster
-Needing Rule Change (5 Second Back to the Basket Rule-Anti Barkley)
-Game Creating and Passing
-Rebounding
-Floor D and Help D: Barkley the Superior Stealer and Shot Blocker.
-Having Big Games in the Play-Offs.
-Being Clutcher

etc

Only Things Malone has Over Barkley was FT Shooting and Man to Man Defense (But he was No Garnett or Duncan)

Barkley Was Better at More Things Than Malone Was Better Than Barkley At.


I don't agree with Barkley being top 10, but respect your research/knowledge of this stuff.
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Old 08-31-2012, 05:20 PM   #98
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I don't agree with Barkley being top 10, but respect your research/knowledge of this stuff.

Stat Wise Barkley is a Top 10 All Time. And I Don`t Mean Raw Stats but Broken Down Stats or Analysis Stats...Which Acredit For Not What He Wan`t or Like But What Really Happened. Remember, Not What We Like

See Barkley Was Top 10 All Time in

EFF
PER
+/-
WS Per 48 Minutes
Shot Made/Missed Diferential etc

Infact Only Michael Jordan and Barkley are All Top 10 In All Those Broken Down Stats. That Says Alot About Barkley`s Level When Healthy and Prime


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Old 08-31-2012, 05:30 PM   #99
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Stat Wise Barkley is a Top 10 All Time. And I Don`t Mean Raw Stats but Broken Down Stats or Analysis Stats...Which Acredit For Not What He Wan`t or Like But What Really Happened. Remember, Not What We Like

See Barkley Was Top 10 All Time in

EFF
PER
+/-
WS Per 48 Minutes
Shot Made/Missed Diferential etc

Infact Only Michael Jordan and Barkley are All Top 10 In All Those Broken Down Stats. That Says Alot About Barkley`s Level When Healthy and Prime



That definitely helps his case more. For the record, I don't hold it against for not having a ring. I just thought his prime was short than a lot of the guys on the top 10.
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Old 08-31-2012, 05:58 PM   #100
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That definitely helps his case more. For the record, I don't hold it against for not having a ring. I just thought his prime was short than a lot of the guys on the top 10.

Well Stats Donīt Lie. Its Not What We Like or Wan`t. It Shows Evidence of the Level of Play. I Get U
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