can you imagine Lebron having a losing record with Gasol and Howard?

[Derivative]

not a knock on Kobe, who is a great individual player and played great this season, but he's just not as a good leader as lebron, and does not make players around him better

if lebron had a top 5 PF in the league along with the best center in the league, there's no doubt that he would become a dynasty

[swag2011]

1. Kobe is 34, out of his prime.
2. How does Kobe not make his teammates better when PLENTY (including Shaq, Pau, Odom among others) have had career seasons playing next to him?

[rhythmic]

He was like 8-7 with Bosh and Wade in 2010.

[Derivative]

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[bluechox2]

in before 10 game winning streak

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gasol > bosh
howard > dwade

next

I think his point was that even when you place high caliber players together, it can take more than 10 games for them to gain chemistry.

Nobody truly thinks that the Lakers will have a losing record when the season is over.

[GovernmentMan]

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[tmacattack33]

It's still early...Howard doesn't look good at all even tho we were told that his injury was not something that would have a long term effect on him.

[Derivative]

1. Kobe is 34, out of his prime.
2. How does Kobe not make his teammates better when PLENTY (including Shaq, Pau, Odom among others) have had career seasons playing next to him?

have you ever heard of correlation =/= causation?

shaq, pau, and odom had career seasons with kobe because they were at their prime age, and were suppose to peak regardless of who the play with.

your logic is same as saying kobe having a peak season in 2006 is caused by playing next to smush parker

[2010splash]

Gasol > Bosh? Howard > Wade? Stop it, this is too much!

Bosh = Gasol. Wade = Howard. Back in 2010, Wade was the second best player in the league, not Howard. Miami started out a pathetic 9-8.

I wish we could bump all these silly overreaction threads in June when the Lakers are in the Finals.

[oh the horror]

I dont know why people even bother with threads like this.


The OP has alternative accounts, agreeing with himself in this very thread.


Basically anything you say, he will disagree with.


The whole...."this isnt a knock on Kobe".....is BS.



Lets just call it like it is.

[Graviton]

gasol > bosh
howard > dwade

next

Dude are you retarded? Current Gasol can't even sniff Bosh's anus. He is soft and unmotivated. Bosh is a legit Top 3 PF, Gasol is barely Top 10.

Howard has been playing with little effort and is still not 100%. Lebron wouldn't do much better with this terrible bench and defense. Kicking it out to Artest, Morris, Meeks, Jamison is a lot different than Battier, Miller, Allen, Lewis and Chalmers. On top of that Gasoft's defense would frustrate Lebron, Bosh is actually a quick and smart defender.

[Derivative]

Gasol > Bosh? Howard > Wade? Stop it, this is too much!

Bosh = Gasol. Wade = Howard. Back in 2010, Wade was the second best player in the league, not Howard. Miami started out a pathetic 9-8.

I wish we could bump all these silly overreaction threads in June when the Lakers are in the Finals.

back in 2010 gasol >>>>>> bosh

and you always want an elite bigman perenial defensive player of the year over an elite wing player who is injury prone

[I<3NBA]

no. but i can imagine Kobe not winning anything and ending up ring-less if he had the teams of AI.

[Derivative]

Dude are you retarded? Current Gasol can't even sniff Bosh's anus. He is soft and unmotivated. Bosh is a legit Top 3 PF, Gasol is barely Top 10.

Howard has been playing with little effort and is still not 100%. Lebron wouldn't do much better with this terrible bench and defense. Kicking it out to Artest, Morris, Meeks, Jamison is a lot different than Battier, Miller, Allen, Lewis and Chalmers. On top of that Gasoft's defense would frustrate Lebron, Bosh is actually a quick and smart defender.

this is why kobe is a bad leader, he can't even motivate his teammates to play hard. you never see lack of effort problems with lebron's teammates, which you see often with the lakers

also i bet if miami trades bosh for gasol, you wouldn't be happy. the only thing bosh has over gasol is jumpshooting, everything else gasol is much better at