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    Default Re: 538 2020 projections

    Rockets at #1 is crazy and could be a shining example of stats gone wrong...... unless they actually maximize the immense talent they have

    They could do this by putting Westbrook off-ball, mj-style

    If Westbrook can mimic MJ off-ball, then who knows - maybe they can win the West, assuming they can play some D

    Other than MJ's catch-and-shoot ability, Westbrook has similar footwork to MJ (i.e. MJ's optimal lean-in footwork and vertical leaping style) and I could see him being devastating off-ball, especially in this spaced-out environment

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    Rockets at #1 is crazy and could be a shining example of stats gone wrong...... unless they actually maximize the immense talent they have

    They could do this by putting Westbrook off-ball, mj-style

    If Westbrook can mimic MJ off-ball, then who knows - maybe they can win the West, assuming they can play some D

    Other than MJ's catch-and-shoot ability, Westbrook has similar footwork to MJ (i.e. MJ's optimal lean-in footwork and vertical leaping style) and I could see him being devastating off-ball, especially in this spaced-out environment

    Harden has already proven to be a better pg than Westbrook so I agree with you.

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    Where do you guys think the Rockets actually should project in terms of wins if you think they are so far off?

    They won 65 in 18 and 53 last year despite Paul missing like 1/4 of the season. Rivers also was a nice fit and he was added for a limited number of games.

    They'll also, almost for sure, add another rotation player at some point during the season that helps.

    58 wins seems perfectly reasonable given the evidence.

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    Default Re: FiveThirtyEight 2020 projections

    their system has accounted more for load management, coasting type stuff now because the cavs kept making the finals with meh regular season resumes. With that it makes more sense the clips are a mid tier seed since kawhi's not going give 100% during the rs and he and george might each play like 60 games. 48 still seems way too low however

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    Default Re: FiveThirtyEight 2020 projections

    Quote Originally Posted by DMAVS41
    Where do you guys think the Rockets actually should project in terms of wins if you think they are so far off?

    They won 65 in 18 and 53 last year despite Paul missing like 1/4 of the season. Rivers also was a nice fit and he was added for a limited number of games.

    They'll also, almost for sure, add another rotation player at some point during the season that helps.

    58 wins seems perfectly reasonable given the evidence.
    I'm ok with 58 for the Rockets, It's mostly how low the Clippers are that surprises me although NBAGoat has a good point

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    538 does statistical analysis, so is it surprising that their #1 seed projects to be the team with the 2 biggest regular season stat whores of all time?

    538 is a joke... A bunch of mumbo jumbo that doesn't predict shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    538 does statistical analysis, so is it surprising that they project the team with the 2 biggest regular season stat whores of all time to be #1?

    538 is a joke... A bunch of mumbo jumbo that doesn't predict shit
    How many wins do you think the Rockets get next year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMAVS41
    How many wins do you think the Rockets get next year?
    55-60

    But Clips and Lakers should be flirting with 70 wins each, like the warriors and Spurs a few years ago, assuming every team does load management so that cancels out

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    Default Re: FiveThirtyEight 2020 projections

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    538 does statistical analysis, so is it surprising that their #1 seed projects to be the team with the 2 biggest regular season stat whores of all time?

    538 is a joke... A bunch of mumbo jumbo that doesn't predict shit

    Westbrook and hardens style works in the regular season... So they are right.

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    Default Re: FiveThirtyEight 2020 projections

    I can see the Rockets having a huge regular season. Westbrook will be exposed in the playoffs yet again though

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    Default Re: FiveThirtyEight 2020 projections

    I think they're underselling the Pacers and overselling the Rockets. Otherwise, not bad.

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    Default Re: FiveThirtyEight 2020 projections

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    538 does statistical analysis, so is it surprising that their #1 seed projects to be the team with the 2 biggest regular season stat whores of all time?

    538 is a joke... A bunch of mumbo jumbo that doesn't predict shit
    During conference finals while bucks and warriors were looking good, they had raps as favorites to win the title. Midseason had raptors over bucks even with how good the bucks were looking
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    Default Re: FiveThirtyEight 2020 projections

    Quote Originally Posted by NBAGOAT
    they predicted raptors over warriors midway through the season. Even during conference finals while bucks and warriors were looking good, they had raps as favorites to win the title
    So did I, and i didn't need a bunch of stats

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    Default Re: FiveThirtyEight 2020 projections

    Quote Originally Posted by NBAGOAT
    they predicted raptors over warriors midway through the season. Even during conference finals while bucks and warriors were looking good, they had raps as favorites to win the title
    Btw, 538 says lebron's heat and Cavs are the most stacked teams ever on paper as of 2016

    And they said mj won his 91' and 93' rings with the weakest casts ever to win, aside from the 03' Spurs, 94' to let's and 11' mavs

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