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06-29-2015, 12:10 AM
#121
15x all nba legend
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06-29-2015, 12:12 AM
#122
Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
Originally Posted by Nashty
Stats don't lie my friends.
Gasol > Kobe in 2010.
Mark Twain said it best: "there are 3 kinds of lies. Lies, dammed lies and statistics."
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06-29-2015, 07:44 AM
#123
Good High School Starter
Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
9 page thread about the guy averaging 19/11 being better than the guy averaging 31/6/7 on 59% TS over the last 18 games of the playoffs
2/6 got em shook
Why are you Kobe stans so insecure that you must bring up 2/6 even though this thread has nothing to do with LeBron?
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06-29-2015, 08:24 AM
#124
... on a leash
Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
I'll admit, on a 2nd note, its still Gasol > Kobe, but with that finals game 6 its all a bit closer now..
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11-09-2015, 12:10 PM
#125
Dunking on everybody in the park
Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
Great thread.
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11-09-2015, 12:12 PM
#126
Free the banned users.
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11-09-2015, 12:41 PM
#127
Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
Gasol was better then Kobe in the 1st round against OKC.
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Against Utah in the 2nd round they were both great.
Kobe : 31 / 4 / 6-apg / 0.8-spg on 61%TS
Gasol : 24 / 15 / 3-apg / 2.8-bpg on 68%TS
Not a big gap here.
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Kobe was better against Phoenix (3rd round) but Pau was pretty good in most of the games.
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[COLOR="DarkRed"]Then we have the Finals against Boston.[/COLOR]
These are their stats in the 4 Laker wins.
Kobe : 26 / 10 on 37%FG
3.7-APG / 2.75 TOV
Gasol : 19 / 14 on 46%FG
5.0-APG / 1.75 TOV
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+2.5-BPG
Food for thought.
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11-09-2015, 12:46 PM
#128
NBA rookie of the year
Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
Originally Posted by TrueBlue89
Great thread.
New alt AW?
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11-09-2015, 12:50 PM
#129
NBA Legend
Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
Despite playing with a bad knee that required fluid to be drained, Bean had better overall raw numbers, higher RAPM (advanced individual impact), and more memorable games.
Dude was better than Gasol and it's not even arguable.
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11-09-2015, 12:53 PM
#130
NBA rookie of the year
Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
People forget Game 6 of that Celtics series, Kobe went nuts.
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11-09-2015, 12:56 PM
#131
Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
yeah yeah 'why do this they played on the same team' well here it goes..
1st Round vs Oklahoma City Thunder
G1:
Gasol: 19/13/3 on 50% + 3 Blocks
Kobe: 21/2/3 on 31% (5 PF's)
Gasol > Kobe
G2:
Gasol: 25/12(5 offensive)/2 on 57%
Kobe: 39/5/1 on 42%
Gasol > Kobe
G3:
Gasol: 17/15/6 on 58%
Kobe: 24/4/8 on 34%
Gasol > Kobe
G4:
Gasol: 13/4/3 on 50%
Kobe: 12/3/4 on 50%
Wash
G5:
Gasol: 25/11/5 on 63%
Kobe: 13/3/7 on 44%
Gasol > Kobe
G6:
Gasol: 9/18/3 on 36%
Kobe: 32/7/3 on 48% (5 TO's)
Kobe > Gasol
1st Round Summary (6 Games)
Gasol better in 4/6 Games
2nd Round vs Utah Jazz
G1:
Gasol: 25/12/4 on 60% + 5 Blocks
Kobe: 31/3/4 on 63%
Gasol > Kobe (Close, but 9 Rebound Gap, 5 Blocks and Kobe with TO/PF Edge)
G2:
Gasol: 22/15(5 offensive)/2 on 64% (6 TO's)
Kobe: 30/5/8 on 45% + 3 Blocks (7 TO's)
Gasol > Kobe
G3:
Gasol: 14/17(7 offensive)/3 on 50% shooting
Kobe : 35 / 4 / 7 | 54% shooting
Kobe > Gasol (Close, PG has a fine case with 17 Rebounds/7 Off. Reb.! But scoring..)
G4:
Gasol: 33/14(7 offensive)/2 on 67%
Kobe: 32/3/4 on 47%
Gasol > Kobe
2nd Round Summary (4 Games)
Gasol better in 3/4 Games
Conference Finals vs Pheonix Suns
G1:
Gasol: 25/4/5 on 77%
Kobe: 40/5/5 on 55%
Kobe > Gasol
G2:
Gasol: 29/9/5 on 58%
Kobe: 21/5/13 on 42%
Gasol > Kobe
G3:
Gasol: 23/9/2 on 79%
Kobe: 36/9/11 on 54% (5 TO's)
Kobe > Gasol
G4:
Gasol: 15/5/3 on 43% + 4 Blocks
Kobe: 38/7/10 on 68%
Kobe > Gasol
G5:
Gasol: 21/9/5 on 50%
Kobe: 30/11/9 on 44% + 4 Blocks
Kobe > Gasol
G6:
Gasol: 9/7/2 on 22%
Kobe: 37/6/2 on 48%
Kobe > Gasol
Conference Finals Summary ( 6 Games)
Kobe better in 5/6 Games
Finals vs Boston Celtics
G1:
Gasol: 23/14(8 offensive)/3 on 57% + 3 Blocks
Kobe: 30/7/6 on 45%
Gasol > Kobe
G2:
Gasol: 25/8/3/ on 70% + 6 Blocks
Kobe: 21/5/6 on 40% + 4 Steals (5 TO's+5 PF's)
Gasol > Kobe
G3:
Gasol: 13/10/4 on 46%
Kobe: 29/7/4 on 34% + 3 Blocks
Kobe > Gasol
G4:
Gasol: 21/6/3 on 46%
Kobe: 33/6/2 on 45% (7 TO's+5 PF's)
Wash
G5:
Gasol: 12/12(7 offensive)/0 on 42%
Kobe: 38/5/4 on 48% (5 PF's)
Kobe > Gasol
G6:
Gasol: 17/13(5 offensive)/9 on 44% + 3 Blocks
Kobe: 26/11/3 on 47% + 4 Steals
Gasol > Kobe
G7:
Gasol: 19/18(9 offensive)/4 on 38%
Kobe: 23/15/2 on 25%
Gasol > Kobe
Turnovers:
Kobe: 28
Gasol: 13
*only noted 3+ Blocks/Steals and 5+ TO's / PF's
Finals Summary (7 Games)
Gasol better in 4/7 Games
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2010 Playoff Summary (23 Games)
1st Round: Gasol > Kobe
2nd Round: Gasol > Kobe
Conference Finals: Kobe > Gasol
Finals: Gasol > Kobe
Gasol better in 3/4 Series'
Kobe better in 1/4 Series'
Gasol better in 12/23 Games
Kobe better in 9/23 Games
Gasol > Kobe in 2010 Playoffs
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Which ones would you disagree with?
Didnt even bother reading.. sonce its all opinion and biased favoritism towards rebounds over points
But seriously.. nearly every play the lakers ran was through kobe
Gasol ate up all those wide open set shots at the top of the key due to kobes initial double or presence
Kobe was the man.. revisionist history wont change that. No sane person would ever utter this idea in public. Ever
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11-09-2015, 12:57 PM
#132
Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
Originally Posted by ShaqTwizzle
[COLOR="DarkRed"]Then we have the Finals against Boston.[/COLOR]
These are their stats in the 4 Laker wins.
Kobe : 26 / 10 on 37%FG
3.7-APG / 2.75 TOV
Gasol : 19 / 14 on 46%FG
5.0-APG / 1.75 TOV
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+2.5-BPG
Food for thought.
Well thought is not needed. Just watch game 1 and game 6 again.
Specifically the 4th quarter in both of these blowouts.
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11-09-2015, 01:05 PM
#133
Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
But seriously.. nearly every play the lakers ran was through kobe
That is complete bull Kenny.
The Laker's offense was built heavily around Gasol in 2010 and was not nearly as Kobe-centric as it was in 08 and to a lesser extent in 09.
That Laker team consistently ran the triangle through Gasol in the post and consistently threw the ball down and relied on him to either score or create for others including many, many times in pressure/4th quarter situations.
They'd throw the ball down to Gasol and he'd create a bucket, period. He scored many clutch baskets in that run.
In 2008 your statement might have had some merit but in 2010 Gasol was basically the co-leader of the offense even if Kobe had the bigger role of the two by a noticeably but not overly large degree.
Kobe floated around the court with Angel wings. He scored all the Laker points and any points Gasoft the scrub worst player in the league scored were hand fed like a baby bird by Kobe.
revisionist history wont change that.
No. You mention sanity but you are insane if you believe that.
Go back and watch the games.
That offense was a two headed monster built around both of them.
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11-09-2015, 01:11 PM
#134
NBA rookie of the year
Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
"Co leader of the offense"
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11-09-2015, 01:14 PM
#135
Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
Originally Posted by Magic 32
Well thought is not needed. Just watch game 1 and game 6 again.
Specifically the 4th quarter in both of these blowouts.
Eh.
You are implying that Gasol did most of his damage once the game was out of reach.
However I have never heard anyone say that about G6.
I have heard it about G1 but I don't know if it is even true.
I am looking back at the gamelog and it seems that Gasol did most of his damage before the game was blown out.
His last bucket (FG) in the 3rd quarter came when their lead was only 9.
He then scored 1 more pt before the quarter ended on a FT.
Then in the 4th he scored 5pts while Kobe scored 4pts.
So yeah... gotta review it more but I don't see that argument panning out.
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I checked out G6 also.
LAL did blow them out by half-time.
So I compared their performance only over the first half.
Gasol : 8pts / 8 rebounds / 5 assists
Kobe : 15pts / 5 rebounds / 2 assists
Not a big gap there.
Last edited by ShaqTwizzle; 11-09-2015 at 01:40 PM.
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