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    Default Re: Why does Magics defense get a pass on alltime lists?

    Quote Originally Posted by eliteballer
    Magic led the league in steals.
    And Magic's steals were among the most impactful defensive plays in the game ever: Not only was it a five or four point turn around, but Magic used the opportunity, to get a teammate a jumpstart with an easy basket and to increase tempo. Teams played weary of Magic playing the passing lanes and played more conservatively and on their heels.
    Last edited by Pointguard; 06-25-2015 at 01:27 PM.

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    Default Re: Why does Magics defense get a pass on alltime lists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kukoc
    THe same as Kobe Bryants defense also does.

    Magic was the greatest passer and a good scorer. He could play positions from 1-5.

    Won his first ring as a rookie when he had to play center.

    When you are that good and the offense and you are that versatile, I give his defense a pass.
    And his defense wasnt that bad.
    Magic can play center because he got his first ring playing as one in one finals game is one of the biggest baloneys in the history of the league. If he were to play more games as center, the other 80s centers would bang him to oblivion just like the dude who gave him HIV.
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    Default Re: Why does Magics defense get a pass on alltime lists?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigVeto
    Magic can play center because he got his first ring playing as one in one finals game is one of the biggest baloneys in the history of the league. If he were to play more games as center, the other 80s centers would bang him to oblivion just like the dude who gave him HIV.

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    Default Re: Why does Magics defense get a pass on alltime lists?

    Well, he did get to the NBA Finals 9-times, and won 3-NBA Finals MVPs

    People who have won 3 Finals MVPs

    Jordan
    Shaq
    Magic
    Duncan

    That's it

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    Default Re: Why does Magics defense get a pass on alltime lists?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCorporation
    Well, he did get to the NBA Finals 9-times, and won 3-NBA Finals MVPs

    People who have won 3 Finals MVPs

    Jordan
    Shaq
    Magic
    Duncan

    That's it
    And Magic got two of his against all time great defensive teams. And Boston was a top defensive team a year before too. The other Guys might have one between them and all looked pretty bad when they did face top defensive teams.

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    Default Re: Why does Magics defense get a pass on alltime lists?

    cos without Magic, the modern era would have been delayed by 10 years (jordan's arrival)

    he's a pioneer and deserves a pass

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    Default Re: Why does Magics defense get a pass on alltime lists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamtaro CP3KDKG
    Terry Porter>Peak MJ
    Hakeem a negative on offense
    Michael Adams>KJ, Price, Mailman, Ewing, Nique, Hill

    Dr Narcisse that lil bitch

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    Default Re: Why does Magics defense get a pass on alltime lists?

    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan
    It's not 100 percent accurate but it's not 100 percent wrong at the same time. No one ever said Terry Porter had more impact than Jordan in '91. Still, Terry Porter had an absolutely insane year in '91, you guys are not grasping how good he was that season.
    17/8/3.5, wouldn't even make the all-star game in today's NBA filled with good PG's

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    Default Re: Why does Magics defense get a pass on alltime lists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pointguard
    And Magic got two of his against all time great defensive teams. And Boston was a top defensive team a year before too. The other Guys might have one between them and all looked pretty bad when they did face top defensive teams.
    Wrong. And 80's 'defense' is not comparable to 2000's defense.

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    Default Re: Why does Magics defense get a pass on alltime lists?

    Magic and Bird tend to be ranked together so highly because the NBA was dead in the water before they came around. Kinda like how a lot of people tend to group Wilt/Russell together.

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    Default Re: Why does Magics defense get a pass on alltime lists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spurs5Rings2014
    Wrong. And 80's 'defense' is not comparable to 2000's defense.
    Best defender in the league now are the guys with the whistle. You could tackle guys back then and be playing the next game. And in this case you are talking about centers, you absolutely have no idea what you are talking about. DH and AMare had no offensive skills and were rocking the mid 20's in scoring. Absolutely no way does that go over in the 80's. Your're misled. Most centers are in general soft, weak and unfocused in the 2000's

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    Default Re: Why does Magics defense get a pass on alltime lists?

    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan
    You know it's nothing but the honest truth.

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