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    Default Re: Spurs were older than the Heat last year

    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Yo
    Or if the Spurs didn't blow a 13pt lead late in the 3rd or blow a 5pt lead with 28 seconds left.
    Or, if it weren't for a now 39 year old Ray Allen.

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    Default Re: Spurs were older than the Heat last year

    Old teams win titles, not young teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    what other reason does a defense have for giving up, other than realizing their offense can't keep up?
    Tired, old, injured, etc..

    They didn't "give up" they just weren't able to keep up with the Spurs.

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    Default Re: Spurs were older than the Heat last year

    Quote Originally Posted by aj1987

    Tired, old, injured, etc..
    Spurs big 3 was much older - Duncan was 37, Manu 36, and Parker 31.

    so being old is a bad excuse.



    They didn't "give up" they just weren't able to keep up with the Spurs.
    at the time the series was actually happening, all the media, fans, and other players were saying the Heat had quit... the Heat body language was very obvious, which led to the consensus that they quit.

    and them quitting defensively would certainly explain why the Heat allowed the Spurs to have a record 121 ORtg, while all the other Spurs opponents kept it to 114 or less - that is a massive, anomalous gap.

    and the only reason a team quits defensively, is because they know their offense can't keep up, when it makes no sense to continue putting forth the grueling, defensive effort.... the aforementioned statistical anomaly shows that the defenses of DAL, OKC and POR had a little more confidence in their offense and accordingly, hung in there a little longer defensively.
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    Default Re: Spurs were older than the Heat last year

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    Spurs big 3 was much older - Duncan was 37, Manu 36, and Parker 31.

    so being old is a bad excuse.


    The Finals MVP and the 2nd highest scoring Spur was 21 years old. TP (the leading scorer) was 31, which is not exactly old. Daw - 31, Patty - 24, Green - 25, etc.. Lets also not forget that the Heat went to 4 straight Finals, which is a shit ton of basketball.

    Heat - 30.6
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    at the time the series was actually happening, all the media, fans, and other players were saying the Heat had quit... the Heat body language was very obvious, which led to the consensus that they quit.
    Don't you even get tired to making shit up?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    and them quitting defensively would certainly explain why the Heat allowed the Spurs to have a record 121 ORtg, while all the other Spurs opponents kept it to 114 or less - that is a massive, anomalous gap.
    Again, kid, the Heat didn't "quit". They couldn't keep up with the Spurs' offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj1987

    They couldn't keep up with the Spurs' offense.
    so you agree that the Heat offense was vastly inferior to the Spurs offense and couldn't keep up, which is my entire point:

    why would they keep giving the grueling effort defensively if they knew their offense "couldn't keep up with the Spurs' offense", like you say?... it's kind of hard to keep giving the effort and playing the grueling defense once it becomes clear your offense is vastly inferior and won't keep up anyway.

    the Spurs ORtg was much lower versus all other opponents, which shows that DAL, OKC and POR had more confidence in their offense and accordingly, hung in there longer defensively.

    how is this an issue - we all saw the heat defense give up last year, which they would never do if they had confidence their offense could match the spurs scoring frequency.

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    Heat's swarming style of defense is a good match-up for Spurs' offense. Carlisle did it the right way - as much man defense as possible - stay with your man - take the role players out of the offense - force SAS big 3(4) to score as much as possible - they can carry the offense for a few (couple) of games but not for a 7 game series due to age. Miami could not suddenly change the way they had been playing (swarming) defense for 4 years. As the series went on, not only did the Spurs' offense get into a fantastic groove but their defense was awesome the last 2 games.

    As Manu said about a few of those quarters, "we just moved the ball and everything went in."

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    so you agree that the Heat offense was vastly inferior to the Spurs offense and couldn't keep up, which is my entire point:

    why would they keep giving the grueling effort defensively if they knew their offense "couldn't keep up with the Spurs' offense", like you say?... it's kind of hard to keep giving the effort and playing the grueling defense once it becomes clear your offense is vastly inferior and won't keep up anyway.

    the Spurs ORtg was much lower versus all other opponents, which shows that DAL, OKC and POR had more confidence in their offense and accordingly, hung in there longer defensively.

    how is this an issue - we all saw the heat defense give up last year, which they would never do if they had confidence their offense could match the spurs scoring frequency.
    In other words, the Heat should've had a coach like Phil? Maybe then they would've 3/4peated.

    BTW, your logic is beyond stupid. Not surprised though.

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