Everyone talks about 2011... but what about 2010?

[warriorfan]

Cavs #1 overall seed, 61 wins
ECSF
2-2 series
Game 5 in Cleveland...


Cavs lose by 32. LeBron James: 15 pts on 3/14 shooting (Shaq had 21 points on 11 shots and 4 blocks in 26 minutes)


What happened???

Lebron quit on his team and faked an elbow injury to try to deflect, he even started shooting free throws left handed...Mysteriously all x-rays and mri

[PickernRoller]

Just like the broken hand after the 18' whooping!

Mr. Narrative.

[warriorfan]

Just like the broken hand after the 18' whooping!

Mr. Narrative.

Yeah, if LeBron feels like he can create some sort of narrative where he isn’t the scapegoat....he will flat out quit right there on the spot

Lebron literally doesn’t play to win, he plays not to lose

[Nikola_]

Why he ducked kobe in those years is beyond me, it was dream finals..

[ImKobe]

Boston was the significantly more talented team and were peaking at the right time after basically taking the regular season off. That's what happened.

And do we talk enough about 2011.....Cavaliers? 19 wins

Let's be real, those weren't championship teams, no matter what they accomplished in the regular season. The huge talent drop-off after LeBron was always going to get exposed in the playoffs. No to mention the guy on the sidelines - Mike Brown

Cavs obviously went into tank mode with Lebron leaving to land a new franchise player, this argument is so stupid it's hilarious idiots like you are still using it in 2019 . No shit they won 19 games, look at who they played that season.

[aj1987]

That's disingenuous af ... Cavaliers lost more than just LeBron. And more so than that, they don't run an offense. A LeBron team runs everything through him. So when he bolts and leaves like the competitive coward mercenary he is ... everything goes to shit.

He's a floor raiser yes, but with even greater talent IE Miami and Cleveland Stint 2, or last years Lakers ... he struggles to maximize their potential ceiling level of success.

He marginalizes other greats with his style of play. Needing to ball dominate, and be high usage. Why? LeBron doesn't play to win. He plays for narrative, through his STATS. Because he's too big of a chicken shit loser afraid to lose, than roll the dice going all out in the manner of play (IE man defense - see KD 2017 and 2018) in takes to win.

But given his style of play, he can not be absolutely dominant in high leverage situations when pressure is at it's highest. That's why his bitch ass needed prime D-Wade, and then in turn the best ISO scorer in the league, Kyrie as mental and skillful basketball safety blankets.

Now he needs arguably the best PF / Stretch Four ... 3rd best PER player ever.



This dude's need for help given the way his stans overrate his abilities as a potential GOAT candidate never ceases to ****ing amaze me. They're excuse making cowards just like the player they Stan.

Indian Guy being a Chicagoan who hangs off Bron's Jock is utterly ****ing embarrassing.

You call him disingenuous and you post this horse shit drivel?

Wade, when healthy, was just as good with LeBron as he was without him.

Kyrie had some of his best ever seasons WITH LeBron.

Mo Williams had his best ever season with LeBron.

Big Z had his career season with LeBron.

Kuzma and Ingram had their best seasons with LeBron.

I could just keep going.

As for Bosh, he went from being the #1 option and averaging 20/9/2/1 on 49% to 17/7/2/1 on 51% as the #3 option in 3 fewer minutes per game as well.



If you want to talk to players marginalizing others with ZERO context, lets look your lover, shall we?

Jordan marginalized his teammates and ALWAYS reduced their PPG, APG, and RPG. Players put up better numbers WITHOUT Jordan than they did WITH him. Case in point:

Horace Grant from '88-93 - 12/8
Horace Grant in 1994 - 15/11

Toni Kukoc from '96-'98 - 13/4/4
Toni Kukoc in 1999 - 19/7/5

BJ from '90-'93 - 9/3
BJ in 1994 - 15/4

Harper from '87-'94 - 19/5/5
Harper with Jordan - 8/3/3
Harper in '99 - 11/5/3

I'll add one more of Jordan's teammates:

Scottie Pippen from '88-'93 - 16/7/5
Scottie Pippen from '94-'95 - 22/8/5

FACT: MJ reduced his teammates' PPG, RPG, and APG.


And you talk about being a coach, while displaying the basketball intelligence of an autistic chipmunk. Ignore all context of the injuries that LeBron's teammates have faced over the years and claim that LeBron is the reason why those teams under performed. Makes sense. Not to mention the fact that LeBron faced better competition in his last 3 Finals, than Jordan ever did in his entire career.

Funny, how you claim LeBron is a coward, while he's statistically one of the GOAT clutch performers and your idol, dad killer, was such a cowardly shit that he retired multiple times when he knew he was going to get humiliated. Quit the second time when Pip left, 'cause the coward knew that there was ZERO chance of him winning without Pippen (1-9).

Lets not forget his massive chokes in games 4 and 5 in '89, which conveniently get swept under the rug, "coach".

[sdot_thadon]

You call him disingenuous and you post this horse shit drivel?

Wade, when healthy, was just as good with LeBron as he was without him.

Kyrie had some of his best ever seasons WITH LeBron.

Mo Williams had his best ever season with LeBron.

Big Z had his career season with LeBron.

Kuzma and Ingram had their best seasons with LeBron.

I could just keep going.

As for Bosh, he went from being the #1 option and averaging 20/9/2/1 on 49% to 17/7/2/1 on 51% as the #3 option in 3 fewer minutes per game as well.



If you want to talk to players marginalizing others with ZERO context, lets look your lover, shall we?

Jordan marginalized his teammates and ALWAYS reduced their PPG, APG, and RPG. Players put up better numbers WITHOUT Jordan than they did WITH him. Case in point:

Horace Grant from '88-93 - 12/8
Horace Grant in 1994 - 15/11

Toni Kukoc from '96-'98 - 13/4/4
Toni Kukoc in 1999 - 19/7/5

BJ from '90-'93 - 9/3
BJ in 1994 - 15/4

Harper from '87-'94 - 19/5/5
Harper with Jordan - 8/3/3
Harper in '99 - 11/5/3

I'll add one more of Jordan's teammates:

Scottie Pippen from '88-'93 - 16/7/5
Scottie Pippen from '94-'95 - 22/8/5

FACT: MJ reduced his teammates' PPG, RPG, and APG.


And you talk about being a coach, while displaying the basketball intelligence of an autistic chipmunk. Ignore all context of the injuries that LeBron's teammates have faced over the years and claim that LeBron is the reason why those teams under performed. Makes sense. Not to mention the fact that LeBron faced better competition in his last 3 Finals, than Jordan ever did in his entire career.

Funny, how you claim LeBron is a coward, while he's statistically one of the GOAT clutch performers and your idol, dad killer, was such a cowardly shit that he retired multiple times when he knew he was going to get humiliated. Quit the second time when Pip left, 'cause the coward knew that there was ZERO chance of him winning without Pippen (1-9).

Lets not forget his massive chokes in games 4 and 5 in '89, which conveniently get swept under the rug, "coach".

That shit that makes your soul burn slow......

[RRR3]

That's disingenuous af ... Cavaliers lost more than just LeBron. And more so than that, they don't run an offense. A LeBron team runs everything through him. So when he bolts and leaves like the competitive coward mercenary he is ... everything goes to shit.

He's a floor raiser yes, but with even greater talent IE Miami and Cleveland Stint 2, or last years Lakers ... he struggles to maximize their potential ceiling level of success.

He marginalizes other greats with his style of play. Needing to ball dominate, and be high usage. Why? LeBron doesn't play to win. He plays for narrative, through his STATS. Because he's too big of a chicken shit loser afraid to lose, than roll the dice going all out in the manner of play (IE man defense - see KD 2017 and 2018) in takes to win.

But given his style of play, he can not be absolutely dominant in high leverage situations when pressure is at it's highest. That's why his bitch ass needed prime D-Wade, and then in turn the best ISO scorer in the league, Kyrie as mental and skillful basketball safety blankets.

Now he needs arguably the best PF / Stretch Four ... 3rd best PER player ever.



This dude's need for help given the way his stans overrate his abilities as a potential GOAT candidate never ceases to ****ing amaze me. They're excuse making cowards just like the player they Stan.

Indian Guy being a Chicagoan who hangs off Bron's Jock is utterly ****ing embarrassing.

Post this on your 3ball account.

[superduper]

Now I see why Bran literally needs an allstar team to be remotely relevant.

[aj1987]

Now I see why Bran literally needs an allstar team to be remotely relevant.

He just needs turds like you to make millions for him, kiddo.

[PickernRoller]

Someone's acid is burning through his stomach...

[egokiller]

Always someone seething over 3/9....

[3ball]

he quit.

the miami booking was already made.

the same exact thing happened in 2014 when the heat got avalanched before next team hop.

and in 2018 another record breaking loss before the next team hop.

preceding every leap, were defeats by massive margin.

truest shit ever written

[Mr Feeny]

Cavs #1 overall seed, 61 wins
ECSF
2-2 series
Game 5 in Cleveland...


Cavs lose by 32. LeBron James: 15 pts on 3/14 shooting (Shaq had 21 points on 11 shots and 4 blocks in 26 minutes)


What happened???

Nobody is forgetting. It was a disaster and is part of the reason the choker tag gets levelled at him.

2009 and 2010 were awful. But 2011 was the biggest collapse in sports history. As such, it isnt surprising that the previous year doesnt get brought up AS MUCH. Why would anyone need to bring it up when just mentioning the Mavs series suffices.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

09-11 Bran was putting on a clinic in how to choke offensively and/or defensively as the heavy favorite with homecourt advantage against massive underdogs