1st option rings - what accomplishment is bigger? It's the best GOAT argument

[3ball]

Agreed, which is why Russell's the GOAT

He averaged 9 points a lot, so I'd argue that he wasn't 1st option hardly ever

He won "Ben Wallace" rings... ....... which is nothing to sneeze at..

But a 2-way great like MJ did both - some Ben Wallace (goat-level D and teammate inspiration) and some Wilt (goat offense carry-job)... That's better than just doing the Ben Wallace part like Russell did.

[TheCorporation]

How many players have 6900 points? One

How many have 6 rings? 10 or so

Bye

2ball?

[SouBeachTalents]

He averaged 9 points a lot, so I'd argue that he wasn't 1st option hardly ever

He won "Ben Wallace" rings... ....... which is nothing to sneeze at..

But a 2-way great like MJ did both - some Ben Wallace (goat-level D and teammate inspiration) and some Wilt (goat O carry-job)... That's better than just doing the Ben Wallace part like Russell did.

Russell literally never averaged 9 points, you have no idea wtf you're talking about

[DaHeezy]

It boggles my mind that Dray N Klay gets constantly ragged on yet 3ball does the exact same thing. But on steroids.

[Smoke117]

He averaged 9 points a lot, so I'd argue that he wasn't 1st option hardly ever

He won "Ben Wallace" rings... ....... which is nothing to sneeze at..

But a 2-way great like MJ did both - some Ben Wallace (goat-level D and teammate inspiration) and some Wilt (goat offense carry-job)... That's better than just doing the Ben Wallace part like Russell did.

LMFAO, you have to love how he's so deluded he actually thinks Jordan was anything close to the level Ben Wallace was defensively. Jesus christ. Is it not enough for you Jordan is considered the GOAT you have to make up stupid ass shit like he was at the level of a Ben Wallace or Hakeem defensively. Guys he wasn't even 1/10th of when it comes to impact in that regard. That there are honestly clowns here who think you are telling facts when you say shit like this is hilarious.

[3ball]

[COLOR="DarkRed"]Russell literally never averaged 9 points[/COLOR], you have no idea wtf you're talking about

9 ppg in the 59' and 69' Finals

11 and 13 ppg in various others

But let's not let facts get in the way of a good troll

[3ball]

LMFAO, you have to love how he's so deluded [COLOR="DarkRed"]he actually thinks Jordan was anything close to the level Ben Wallace was defensively[/COLOR]. Jesus christ. Is it not enough for you Jordan is considered the GOAT you have to make up stupid ass shit like he was at the level of a Ben Wallace or Hakeem defensively. Guys he wasn't even 1/10th of when it comes to impact in that regard. That there are honestly clowns here who think you are telling facts when you say shit like this is hilarious.

MJ and Wallace are analogous in that both played goat D at their position

So again, Russell won "Ben Wallace" rings, which is nothing to sneeze at..

But a 2-way great like MJ did both - some Ben Wallace (goat-level D and teammate inspiration) and some Wilt (goat offense carry-job)...

That's better than just doing the Ben Wallace part like Russell did

[SouBeachTalents]

9 ppg in the 59' and 69' Finals

11 and 13 ppg in various others

But let's not let facts get in the way of a good troll

Says he averaged 9 points "a lot", has to cherry pick literally 2 series in a 13 year career lol

[Smoke117]

MJ and Wallace are analogous in that both played goat D at their position

So again, Russell won "Ben Wallace" rings, which is nothing to sneeze at..

But a 2-way great like MJ did both - some Ben Wallace (goat-level D and teammate inspiration) and some Wilt (goat offense carry-job)... That's better than just doing the Ben Wallace part like Russell did

GOAT D at the SG position and GOAT at the Center position are two very different things you clown which you are well aware of. You just like twisting shit to make MJ look much better than he was. The fact of the matter is, like I said before, Jordan didn't even have 1/10th of the defensive impact a Ben Wallace had. As I've said millions of times, CONTEXT is basically allergic to you. That's beside the point that Ben wallace was neither better than Hakeem or David Robinson at D at the Center position in the first place. At his peak and prime I do have him 3rd for the modern NBA, though.

[NBAGOAT]

Comparing Russell's offense to Ben Wallace should be banworthy

[3ball]

Says he averaged 9 points "a lot", has to cherry pick literally 2 series in a 13 year career lol

Averaging 9 ppg twice IS a lot... And 11 and 13 various other times

Imagine if lebron did that.. you're just using a double standard to degrade MJ

[GimmeThat]

padded stats of your last option

[bigkingsfan]

He was the first option on the defensive end, so yes bow down. 11 rangz

[kennethgriffen]

heinsohn 1957 ( most shots and points )
heinsohn 1959 ( most shots and points )
heinsohn 1960 ( most shots and points )
heinsohn 1961 ( most shots and points )
heinsohn 1962 ( a few less points than russell but still the most shots )
heinsohn 1963 ( 1 less ppg than jones but still the most shots )


tom heinsohn was the 1st option for 6 title teams

[FKAri]

Winning a ring for Cleveland. CLEVELAND!