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Old 05-21-2019, 11:33 PM   #46
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Default Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?

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Old 05-21-2019, 11:46 PM   #47
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Playoffs


09' Lakers ORtg .with.'' Kobe - 112.0
09' Lakers ORtg w/out Kobe -.. 94.0
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.................................Difference - 18.0 <----- link to NBA.com source



18' Warrior ORtg .with.'' Durant - 114.4
18' Warrior ORtg w/out Durant - 96.8
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.................................Difference - 17.6



16' Cavalier ORtg .with.'' lebron - 115.9
16' Cavalier ORtg w/out lebron - 98.4
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.................................Difference - 17.5



18' Warrior ORtg .with.'' Curry - 113.5
18' Warrior ORtg w/out Curry - 107.3.
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.................................Difference - 6.2



19' Warrior ORtg .with.'' Curry - 119.0
19' Warrior ORtg w/out Curry - 102.7
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.................................Difference - 16.3


How does this not prove that Kobe had the biggest offensive impact?
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Curry only played 51 games last year while KD played 68.

Since you're no doubt too stupid to understand what that means, I'll spell it out for you. Steph being out of action means that once KD is off the floor, Klay, Iggy, and Draymond are your offense. KD played 34.2 mpg to Steph's 32.0 mpg. Steph going to the bench means you still had KD on the floor because Kerr likes to have one or the other on the floor as much as possible except for blowouts.

Also, GS is 31-1 in games with Curry but no KD.

Must suck worshipping a loser who could never make it beyond the 2nd round without both Pippen + an all NBA defender at PF and who ended up being only worth +2W over Pete Myers.
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Old 05-21-2019, 11:49 PM   #48
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I like Jordan, but those uncontested 3’s he was taking vs portland would be a lay-up line for steph curry.

I *wish* theyd leave lil steph that open! Ha

Maybe you didn't read the numbers - 53% of Curry's threes are taken with 6+ feet of room, which the NBA defines as "wide open"

53%........ of his threes......... are wide......... the fuck.... open

Overall, 80% are open or wide open (system player), more than Dame or Harden

The best contested jumpshooting game of all time was MJ's 54 points on all jumpers in Game 4 of 1993 ECF
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Old 05-22-2019, 12:07 AM   #49
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Mods can you sticky this and forever make an example out of 3ball thx.
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Old 05-22-2019, 12:11 AM   #50
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Curry only played 51 games last year while KD played 68.

Since you're no doubt too stupid to understand what that means, I'll spell it out for you. Steph being out of action means that once KD is off the floor, Klay, Iggy, and Draymond are your offense. KD played 34.2 mpg to Steph's 32.0 mpg. Steph going to the bench means you still had KD on the floor because Kerr likes to have one or the other on the floor as much as possible except for blowouts.

I posted the playoff stats - ur referring to regular season


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Must suck worshipping a loser who could never make it beyond the 2nd round without both Pippen + an all NBA defender at PF and who ended up being only worth +2W over Pete Myers.
What All-NBA or all-star PF did MJ have in 1989 when he made the conference finals? And what were Pippen's numbers?

MJ's 85-89' bulls had ZERO accolades - that means no 2-time all-star Jamison, no 2-time-all-star Zydrunas, no all-star Mo Williams, no all-defenders Hughes and Varejao, or 09' all-star MVP Shaq playing 4th option in 10'..

MJ's 85-89' casts were worse than anything lebron ever had, yet his 89' team made the conference finals as a 6 seed and were the only team to win 2 games off the Bad Boys
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Old 05-22-2019, 12:13 AM   #51
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Curry only played 51 games last year while KD played 68.

Since you're no doubt too stupid to understand what that means, I'll spell it out for you. Steph being out of action means that once KD is off the floor, Klay, Iggy, and Draymond are your offense. KD played 34.2 mpg to Steph's 32.0 mpg. Steph going to the bench means you still had KD on the floor because Kerr likes to have one or the other on the floor as much as possible except for blowouts.

Also, GS is 31-1 in games with Curry but no KD.

Must suck worshipping a loser who could never make it beyond the 2nd round without both Pippen + an all NBA defender at PF and who ended up being only worth +2W over Pete Myers.


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Old 05-22-2019, 12:53 AM   #52
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SO FISHER had a bigger impact than KOBE.. IN THE NBAFINALS


THREAD IS OVER

https://stats.nba.com/team/161061274... LastNGames=5


shut. it. down.
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Old 05-22-2019, 12:54 AM   #53
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Curry only played 51 games last year while KD played 68.

Since you're no doubt too stupid to understand what that means, I'll spell it out for you. Steph being out of action means that once KD is off the floor, Klay, Iggy, and Draymond are your offense. KD played 34.2 mpg to Steph's 32.0 mpg. Steph going to the bench means you still had KD on the floor because Kerr likes to have one or the other on the floor as much as possible except for blowouts.

Also, GS is 31-1 in games with Curry but no KD.

Must suck worshipping a loser who could never make it beyond the 2nd round without both Pippen + an all NBA defender at PF and who ended up being only worth +2W over Pete Myers.

Shit

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Old 05-22-2019, 12:58 AM   #54
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3ball it doesn't matter how many michael jordan spacejam boxers you have and it doesn't matter that you still wear michael jordan bulls underwear - you're still trash at ball.



3ball is getting bullied in his own thread this is amazing
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Old 05-22-2019, 01:11 AM   #55
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Old 05-22-2019, 01:16 AM   #56
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Default Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?

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Curry only played 51 games last year while KD played 68.

Since you're no doubt too stupid to understand what that means, I'll spell it out for you. Steph being out of action means that once KD is off the floor, Klay, Iggy, and Draymond are your offense. KD played 34.2 mpg to Steph's 32.0 mpg. Steph going to the bench means you still had KD on the floor because Kerr likes to have one or the other on the floor as much as possible except for blowouts.

Also, GS is 31-1 in games with Curry but no KD.

Must suck worshipping a loser who could never make it beyond the 2nd round without both Pippen + an all NBA defender at PF and who ended up being only worth +2W over Pete Myers.

Good god what a decimation.

Don't forget to highlight MJ's "tough" competition too:

This was his toughest line of defense






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Old 05-22-2019, 02:12 PM   #57
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Default Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?

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Curry only played 51 games last year while KD played 68.

Since you're no doubt too stupid to understand what that means, I'll spell it out for you. Steph being out of action means that once KD is off the floor, Klay, Iggy, and Draymond are your offense. KD played 34.2 mpg to Steph's 32.0 mpg. Steph going to the bench means you still had KD on the floor because Kerr likes to have one or the other on the floor as much as possible except for blowouts.

I posted the playoff stats - ur referring to regular season

Are you that slow or did you not even see the heading that said "playoffs"

Team ORtg changes more when Kobe/Durant leave the floor or return than it does with Curry, so they have more impact than Curry, period..

the numbers are what they are


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Must suck worshipping a loser who could never make it beyond the 2nd round without both Pippen + an all NBA defender at PF and who ended up being only worth +2W over Pete Myers.

What All-NBA or all-star PF did MJ have in 1989 when he made the conference finals? And what were Pippen's numbers?

MJ's 85-89' bulls had ZERO accolades - that means no 2-time all-star Jamison, no 2-time-all-star Zydrunas, no all-star Mo Williams, no all-defenders Hughes and Varejao, or 09' all-star MVP Shaq playing 4th option in 10'..

MJ's 85-89' casts were worse than anything lebron ever had, yet his 89' team made the conference finals as a 6 seed and were the only team to win 2 games off the Bad Boys
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Old 05-22-2019, 03:09 PM   #58
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FYI - curry mostly leads the Warriors in regular season differential

But it's the playoffs where he dips..

only a 3 point differential in 15' and 16' Playoffs, when Draymond led the team both years

So Curry's differentials from 15-19' playoffs are: 3, 3, 30, 6, 16.... Mostly low and not leading team in playoffs, compared to him leading the regular seasons
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