Cavs trying to trade for Joe Johnson

[ArbitraryWater]

I'd be stunned if Andy were involved in this deal. I think that is just Windy prognosticating how it might work, money-wise. There are other ways they could theoretically make this happen.

One of those options would be to S&T JR Smith and maybe Sasha Kahn. That would seem a more likely scenario than Andy being shown the door at this stage of his career and with LeBron being one of his best friends.

Just read Andy/Haywood

[bballnoob1192]

lebron literally destroying his competition out east. he's just breaking teams up and softening them for the playoffs.

[Fire Colangelo]

Demar Derozan can be the Cavaliers Iguodala.

The ****.

I'm pretty sure we can get more than expiring contracts and late picks for a 25 year old all starter caliber shooting guard.

Not to mention Demar's skill set really overlaps with Kyrie and LeBron, he needs the ball to be effective and there's only one ball to share and he's a terrible spot up shooter...

[BallsOut]

PG: Kyrie Irving (16 mill) | Matthew Delladova (5 mill)
SG: Joe Johnson (20 mill) | JR Smith (13 mill)
SF: Lebron James (20 mill) | Iman Shumpert (10 mill)
PF: Kevin Love (20 mill) | Tristan Thompson (16 mill) | David West (3 mill)
C: Timofey Mozgov (5 mill) | Anderson Verajao (10 mill)

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2015-16 East All Star starters

138 mill payroll + taxes

[Nash]

damn dan gilbert really wants to pay up

[Kingwillball]

Will be interesting to see how final cavs roster shakes out

[RedBlackAttack]

PG: Kyrie Irving (16 mill) | Matthew Delladova (5 mill)
SG: Joe Johnson (20 mill) | JR Smith (13 mill)
SF: Lebron James (20 mill) | Iman Shumpert (10 mill)
PF: Kevin Love (20 mill) | Tristan Thompson (16 mill) | David West (3 mill)
C: Timofey Mozgov (5 mill) | Anderson Verajao (10 mill)

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2015-16 East All Star starters

138 mill payroll + taxes

If this deal went down (and it is a major "if"), I'd guess JJ would backup LeBron and play a lot of the 3. Shumpert would remain the starter, imo.

I'd also guess JR Smith would be going to Brooklyn in a S&T.

[GIF REACTION]

PG: Kyrie Irving (16 mill) | Matthew Delladova (5 mill)
SG: Joe Johnson (20 mill) | JR Smith (13 mill)
SF: Lebron James (20 mill) | Iman Shumpert (10 mill)
PF: Kevin Love (20 mill) | Tristan Thompson (16 mill) | David West (3 mill)
C: Timofey Mozgov (5 mill) | Anderson Verajao (10 mill)

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2015-16 East All Star starters

138 mill payroll + taxes

That would be the greatest collaboration of talent in NBA history

So many line up options

[niko]

I'd be stunned if Andy were involved in this deal. I think that is just Windy prognosticating how it might work, money-wise. There are other ways they could theoretically make this happen.

One of those options would be to S&T JR Smith and maybe Sasha Kahn. That would seem a more likely scenario than Andy being shown the door at this stage of his career and with LeBron being one of his best friends.

You think the Nets want to take on money and bring in JR Smith? That would be hilarious but no.

Hate this from the Nets perspective. This is a move about (100%) saving Prokky money. Nothing else. If you're worried about the billionaire and his finances, then yes, this is a kick ass move.

[BallsOut]

If this deal went down (and it is a major "if"), I'd guess JJ would backup LeBron and play a lot of the 3. Shumpert would remain the starter, imo.

I'd also guess JR Smith would be going to Brooklyn in a S&T.

Why would Joe Johnson who is making 25 mill next season come off the bench behind a scrub like Iman Shumpert?

Also, per the new CBA I don't think you can S&T players that are unrestricted free agents anymore.

[Donkey4trading]

getting JJ would be nice, but we still have so many weakness's we still need help with

[JerrySeinfeld]

They could get West and Joe Johnson and LeBron groupies would still act like he doesn't have enough help.

[RedBlackAttack]

Why would Joe Johnson who is making 25 mill next season come off the bench behind a scrub like Iman Shumpert?

Also, per the new CBA I don't think you can S&T players that are unrestricted free agents anymore.

Do you think the amount of money Johnson is making on a contract signed five years ago is going to have an impact on how the Cavs' coaches choose to use him?

They need a playmaker off the bench. That would be his role.

Also, you can S&T free agents. The Cavs couldn't receive a player via S&T because they are over the cap, but they can send them out.

[Rose'sACL]

Both Magic and Bird get a free pass for having super stacked teams through their NBA Career.

And it took a stacked team like '83 Sixers, and '89" Pistons to beat them in a playoffs series.

Shut up you fcking idiot.
Go make something of your life.

[RedBlackAttack]

You think the Nets want to take on money and bring in JR Smith? That would be hilarious but no.

Hate this from the Nets perspective. This is a move about (100%) saving Prokky money. Nothing else. If you're worried about the billionaire and his finances, then yes, this is a kick ass move.

...but they would want Varejao?

This would be strictly a salary-saving move.