2009 Wade was better than Kobe ever was

[magnax1]

I think the consensus among non Laker fans is that they had pretty close peaks. TMac Lebron Wade and Kobe all kind of peaked in the same tier. The rest of their careers is what seperates them.

[Suguru101]

You guys have valid points, and Wade's 2009 is indeed one of the best seasons by a shooting guard statistically...

But there are two things that keep Wade at his peak from being better than Kobe:

Shooting

Kobe is a vastly better mid-range shooter than Wade, and better three-point shooter and free-throw shooter.

Size

Kobe Bryant is a 6'6/6'7 shooting guard with lengthy arms who could see over a defense better than Wade and was also able to guard anybody from 6 feet up to 6'9 feet(Mcgrady).

That size, along with his skillset made a peak Kobe Bryant(2008-2009) a much better post player than Wade has ever been. Why is that important? Because in the playoffs, Wade can't just accelerate his way into the hoop like he can in the regular season.

Wade's 2009 regular season was impressive, but at the end of the day, it is about the playoffs; and Kobe Bryant at his peak was a much more balanced and skilled playoff performer than Wade at his.

So i'm going to have to disagree.

[Suguru101]

I think the consensus among non Laker fans is that they had pretty close peaks. TMac Lebron Wade and Kobe all kind of peaked in the same tier. The rest of their careers is what seperates them.

Umm, no. LeBron and Kobe are at a different level than guys like Tmac and Wade.

Dwayne wasn't the shooter and didn't have the size that Kobe had, and Tmac didn't have the defense and passing/driving/posting ability that LeBron has.

They are a tier below.

[aj1987]

Ah, haven't been on this site in awhile and the first thing I see is some brain dead dipshit saying Wade is better than Kobe.

The trolls never sleep here, huh?

Nobody said Wade's better that Kobe. Kobe is a top 10 player and Wade is in the 18-22 range. BUT, Wade's best season > Kobe's best season.

[imdaman99]

kobes best season was a long time ago, meanwhile wade's was 4 years back.

at this point in their careers, wade should be a lot better. injuries have cost him. or is it lebron stealing all his stats?

[aj1987]

or is it lebron stealing all his stats?

I know you hate Lebron a lot, but come on dude. Wade IS taking fewer shots, but it's mostly due to sharing the ball with another superstar and an All-Star. Injuries also robbed him from having a top 15 career.

[Vienceslav]

[Smoke117]

Agreed.

[Jacks3]

Kobe at 22 yrs old (2001) was better than Wade has ever been.

Fact.

[AirFederer]

This is already common knowledge to non-LA fans and non Kobe-stans. We just had this thread the other day and a good majority agreed Wade peaked higher. And a VAST majority of those who said Kobe were LA fans. Don't take their ignorance personally. Wade had a fantastic peak, and the fact that it was higher than Kobe's doesn't affect Kobe's legacy one bit. Although their arguments always come down to "5 ringz yo!", they still vehemently stan against the fact that Kobe's stats just don't measure up to many other alltime greats. Unless you count totals, which are completely useless when judging a player's greatness

[PJR]

Kobe at 22 yrs old (2001) was better than Wade has ever been.

Fact.

Actually that's an opinion. And a pretty shitty one at that.

What level of play/ability did Kobe demonstrate in 2001, that Wade didn't in 2006?

[riseagainst]

See, you just described Kobe's first 3 championships.

describes both of lebron*'s championships. One was given to him by the refs and the other was gifted to him by Jesus.

[Jacks3]

03 Kobe is pretty much a better version of Wade. He's Wade with a couple of extra inches, better efficiency, far superior skill-set (much better shooter), and better rebounding/scoring. Oh yeah, and he put up very similar numbers in a much greater defensive environment. Honestly, Wade has no case.

[INDI]

especially since there is this thing called defense.

Most people would take kobe 2013 over anything wade has done.

get realistic

[Jacks3]

Actually that's an opinion. And a pretty shitty one at that.

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Nope. 2001 Kobe was the superior basketball player and his post-season run was better than anything Wade has ever managed, and unlike Wade, his numbers weren't inflated by the new rules that eliminated hand-checking.

I mean, it's not coincidence that's Wade's best postseason (2006) came when the new rules were more emphasized and called than ever before. There's no way in hell he's putting up 29+/7+/6+/2+ in the GOAT defensive era ala 01 Kobe. Not with his (very) limited skill-set.