2009 Wade was better than Kobe ever was

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especially since there is this thing called defense.

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rolol

[BuGzBuNNy]

nope

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaKgZemXzZk

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaKgZemXzZk

http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2...istoric-season

To call Kobe Bryant's defense this season bad is to call the Pacific Ocean big, or the sun hot. He hasn't just been bad and he's not just a liability. His presence on the defensive end of the court has actually become a detriment, in the truest sense of the word. And the worst part? He's not failing to play defense. He has willingly decided that he no longer needs to try.

[MetsPackers]

This is already common knowledge to non-LA fans and non Kobe-stans. We just had this thread the other day and a good majority agreed Wade peaked higher. And a VAST majority of those who said Kobe were LA fans. Don't take their ignorance personally. Wade had a fantastic peak, and the fact that it was higher than Kobe's doesn't affect Kobe's legacy one bit. Although their arguments always come down to "5 ringz yo!", they still vehemently stan against the fact that Kobe's stats just don't measure up to many other alltime greats. Unless you count totals, which are completely useless when judging a player's greatness

[funnystuff]

Player talent/skill? By far. If accolades played no part in most peoples top all time list, Kobe wouldnt even sniff the top 10.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Player talent/skill? By far. If accolades played no part in most peoples top all time list, Kobe wouldnt even sniff the top 10.

If accolades were just handed out on a whim, You might have a point.

If we just could weed out all this bs about championships, accolades, longevity, totals and facts people would realize how overrated Kobe has.

Because let's face it, who's really playing for any of the things mentioned above?

[funnystuff]

If accolades were just handed out on a whim, You might have a point.

If we just could weed out all this bs about championships, accolades, longevity, totals and facts people would realize how overrated Kobe has.

Because let's face it, who's really playing for any of the things mentioned above?

See, you just described Kobe's first 3 championships.

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GTFO with that bullshit.. same dude who dropped as a 5th seed to the mfing hawks..

Lakers with Kobe shouldve upseted a much better suns team but fell short.. either way Kobe dropping 50, gamewinners in the playoffs, 40 point months, 50 points every other day, 60+ multiple times.. One of the most dominant displays of offense in the history of basketball. Wade just cant touch it..


Vast majority of people who say Wade was better are kobe haters or 12 yrs old like OP and never even saw either play in their primes


Whatever the case, there was NOWHERE near as much excitement around Wades 09 as their was around the things Kobe was doing in 06 and 07.. His offensive feats were some of the most impressive ever


Kobe was like peak mike tyson.. video game shit. Wades like buster douglass, had one, two good runs and faded out

[fpliii]

This is where we get into semantics I think. I'm a big Wade fan, and I think he had the "best" regular season so to speak (and arguably best playoffs of himself and Kobe), but I think Kobe was a better player in a few years.

[Doranku]

Sorry, but if you surround prime Kobe with a bunch of college players, he'd find a way to beat the f*cking lowly Hawks.

Prime Wade got outplayed by Joe Johnson in Game 7. Let that sink in.

[TheMarkMadsen]

See, you just described Kobe's first 3 championships.

And you wonder why nobody takes you seriously.

I get it, you started watching basketball in 2011, you don't remember Kobe dominating the WCF on 32 7 & 6, you don't remember that going into the 2001 WCF Kobe was averaging more points than Shaq, had out scored Shaq in total points while playing less minutes.

You don't remember WCF game 7 with 30 10 & 7, you hear "48 & 16" and think Lebron was the first person to do it, 45 & 10 against the Spurs against prime Duncan.. The list goes on and on.

[aj1987]

Kobe was like peak mike tyson.. video game shit. Wades like buster douglass, had one, two good runs and faded out

Douglas knocked out Tyson.

you don't remember Kobe dominating the WCF on 32 7 & 6, you don't remember that going into the 2001 WCF Kobe was averaging more points than Shaq, had out scored Shaq in total points while playing less minutes.

First two rounds.
Kobe: 30.7 PPG 7 RPG 5 APG 1.7 SPG 0.7 BPG on 47.6%
Shaq: 30.6 PPG 16.6 RPG 2.5 APG 0.3 SPG 2.3 BPG on 55%

Sorry, but if you surround prime Kobe with a bunch of college players, he'd find a way to beat the f*cking lowly Hawks.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...602150LAL.html

He didn't do it with NBA players?

[Heavincent]

GTFO with that bullshit.. same dude who dropped as a 5th seed to the mfing hawks..

Lakers with Kobe shouldve upseted a much better suns team but fell short.. either way Kobe dropping 50, gamewinners in the playoffs, 40 point months, 50 points every other day, 60+ multiple times.. One of the most dominant displays of offense in the history of basketball. Wade just cant touch it..


Vast majority of people who say Wade was better are kobe haters or 12 yrs old like OP and never even saw either play in their primes


Whatever the case, there was NOWHERE near as much excitement around Wades 09 as their was around the things Kobe was doing in 06 and 07.. His offensive feats were some of the most impressive ever


Kobe was like peak mike tyson.. video game shit. Wades like buster douglass, had one, two good runs and faded out

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