MJ's rookie season vs Kobe's MVP season

[riseagainst]

MJ rookie season: 28.2 PPG, 6.5 RPG, 5.9 APG, 51.5%FG, 59.2%TS
Kobe 08 season: 28.3 PPG, 6.3 RPG. 5.4 APG, 45.9%FG, 57.6%TS



da GOAT MJ. Rookie MJ as good as PRIME Kobe.

[ClipperRevival]

It puts things into perspective.

[Dr Hawk]

As good? Give me MJ 100 tmies out of 50

[YouGotServed]

MJ rookie season: 28.2 PPG, 6.5 RPG, 5.9 APG, 51.5%FG, 59.2%TS
Kobe 08 season: 28.3 PPG, 6.3 RPG. 5.4 APG, 45.9%FG, 57.6%TS



da GOAT MJ. Rookie MJ as good as PRIME Kobe.

[CJ Mustard]

Kobe stans getting creative. No ****ing way was '08 Kobe as good as rookie Jordan. Agenda exposed.

[3ball]

The most impressive part about MJ's rookie season was how he played against reigning DPOY Sidney Moncrief in the playoffs.

Moncrief was the current back-to-back DPOY and veteran All-NBA player who was playing on BY FAR the best, most stacked Bucks team they've ever had.

Most rookies would cower in the face of this and not perform at an elite level - not MJ though - He averaged 29 PPG, 6 RPG, 9 APG, 2.8 STL, 1.0 BLK, on 57% TS.

And smashed on Moncrief hard as ****, with the AND1 in the first GIF above... The next season, he smashed on Moncrief again, for good measure (2nd GIF).

MJ GOAT - 29/6/9 as a rookie against the DPOY.

[AlphaWolf24]

vs Rookie Bombaata!

37ppg 27rpg 2AST 8BLK 49%TS

[Prometheus]

MJ > Kobe

MJ > human race

[Nikola_]

Captain Marvel >>> Lord Bean

[Nikola_]

Inb4 pace and drtg

[ralph_i_el]

Bulls pace that season 99.4 (21st out of 23)

Lakers pace that season 95.6 (6 out 30)

Mj's best counting-numbers seasons took place in a fast-paced no-defense era. Lakers played a significantly slower pace, and we're considered fast compared to the league at the time.

[kennethgriffin]

Just shows stats arent everything and inflated #'s / hogging/ stat padding / protecting fg% (whether need be or knowing limitations) can lie and isnt the whole story



Its stupid when people say "this guy averaged a few points more in his career so hes better" blah blah



Guys do what the team needs and however much they can without ruining the rhythm/confidence of others












/thread

[LAL]

Soo rookie MJ > MJ's triangle/championship seasons?

[ISHGoat]

21 (rookie mj age) year old lebron :

31.4 PPG, 7 REB, 6.6 AST, 48% FG, 56.8% TS

[SHAQisGOAT]

The most impressive part about MJ's rookie season was how he played against reigning DPOY Sidney Moncrief in the playoffs.

Moncrief was the current back-to-back DPOY and veteran All-NBA player who was playing on BY FAR the best, most stacked Bucks team they've ever had.

Most rookies would cower in the face of this and not perform at an elite level - not MJ though - He averaged 29 PPG, 6 RPG, 9 APG, 2.8 STL, 1.0 BLK, on 57% TS.

And smashed on Moncrief hard as ****, with the AND1 in the first GIF above... The next season, he smashed on Moncrief again, for good measure (2nd GIF).

MJ GOAT - 29/6/9 as a rookie against the DPOY.

Coming back with the same old, same old Like some acid reflux.

BTW, after '85 Moncrief was never the same again due to degenerative knees.
Let's bring up 2000's MJ or something too, at that, smdh.

Anyways, paraphrasing one of my previous post (which you never responded to) on the subject you've brought up...

Love how you just mention the TS% on the topic at hand
How about also saying that Jordan shot a sub-par 43.6% from the field, .442 eFG%, for the series
FG drop-off of 7.9%, from the regular-season!!
5 more minutes per game for Michael, yet only 1 more PPG up from the RS...
Bunch of TO's too, trying to do way too much, while Sid kept his possessions very efficient with terrific impact, then doing the best you can get on the other end.



Moncrief went on and averaged 26.5 PPG on .717 TS%
55% FG, 40% 3PT, 93% FT.
CONSIDERABLY upping his usual (regular-season) production...
150 ORtg on that ass, .569 eFG%!!!
WHILE holding the all-time greatest SG well under his usual %'s, WHILE leading his team to that 3-1 victory in the series.
Goddamn!



Jordan also had teammate Orlando Woolridge putting up 20.5 on 50% for the series, he was wrecking shit up in the paint.
Quintin Dailey, Jordan's backup, was coming off the bench putting up 15.3, although on 41% from the floor.

Not even like the series was WAY too one-sided for the Bucks... 110 to 105 points per game, 114 to 109 ORtg... .514 to .472 eFG%... Bulls with better ORB% and less TOV%.
It was within reach, let's say. And Jordan still played a great series, but got outplayed and lost

And you just KNOW that if that happened with LeBron and not MJ, you'd be all up on it, mocking James... So, just gimme a break.

I'd say the case for Moncrief having outplayed MJ is stronger than the other way around, just how it is... Sid showed him the ropes, be glad for it just like Jordan was, just like Jordan said it happened.


Not in my house!

Stop being so salty, son.