"Winning As The Main Man" Feels Like An Obsolete Idea Now

[masonanddixon]

What about Duncan in 02-03?

Dirk in 10-11 is the epitome of one man winning a ring the hardest, most genuine, and most respectable way possible.

[Mr Feeny]

It's fully possible to win with prime Melo or Harden as the #1 option. Surround them with a cast like the 09-10 lakers who can defend and putback bricks.

[Mr Feeny]

What about Duncan in 02-03?

Dirk in 10-11 is the epitome of one man winning a ring the hardest, most genuine, and most respectable way possible.

When he swept Kobe and sent him home with a 36 point loss?

[masonanddixon]

When he swept Kobe and sent him home with a 36 point loss?

Yes the same postseason in which lebron scored 6 points in a Finals game and tallied a grand total of eight 4th quarter points in six games...

[Mr Feeny]

Yes the same postseason in which lebron scored 6 points in a Finals game and tallied a grand total of eight 4th quarter points in six games...

In other words lebron lost in 6 competitive games against the man that swept Kobe and beat him by 36?

[masonanddixon]

In other words lebron lost in 6 competitive games against the man that swept Kobe and beat him by 36?

Yes Dirk wrecked both of them...
That game 6 blowout on the road was the sweetest justice ever after 05-06.

[Mr Feeny]

Yes Dirk wrecked both of them...
That game 6 blowout on the road was the sweetest justice ever after 05-06.

Yet they lost 2 games against a team that was learning to gel while creaming and sweeping Kobe with a 36 point cherry to finish him off

[masonanddixon]

Yet they lost 2 games against a team that was learning to gel while creaming and sweeping Kobe with a 36 point cherry to finish him off

'Learning to gel', meanwhile they absolutely wrecked a Celtics squad they needed 7 games to barely beat the next postseason and destroyed the team with the league's best record.

Everyone knows 10-11 was the best variant of the Heat; they just ran into Dirk and there was no stopping the man.

[Mr Feeny]

'Learning to gel', meanwhile they absolutely wrecked a Celtics squad they needed 7 games to barely beat the next postseason and destroyed the team with the league's best record.

Everyone knows 10-11 was the best variant of the Heat; they just ran into Dirk and there was no stopping the man.

Absolutely not
A first year team needs time to gel. The fact that they played well in an earlier round is amazing but doesn't mean they weren't gelling.
6 games against the team that swept the defending champions is alright. I think the heat were content with that and then 2 titles over the 2 seasons.

[masonanddixon]

Absolutely not
A first year team needs time to gel. The fact that they played well in an earlier round is amazing but doesn't mean they weren't gelling.
6 games against the team that swept the defending champions is alright. I think the heat were content with that and then 2 titles over the 2 seasons.

Miami sure looked unstoppable after Game 1 and when they were up 15 with 5 minutes to go in Game 2...

And Miami had an insane regular season run after the all star break.

Whereas they barely beat the mediocre Pacers and Celtics (who they wrecked just the previous season) and faced an inexperienced Thunder squad in the Finals.

You can make all the excuses you want but the truth is 2010-2011 was by far the best version of Miami, and having all the role players in the world doesn't compensate for the fact wade was operating at about 20% of capacity from 2012 onwards.

[Mr Feeny]

Miami sure looked unstoppable after Game 1 and when they were up 15 with 5 minutes to go in Game 2...

And Miami had an insane regular season run after the all star break.

Whereas they barely beat the mediocre Pacers and Celtics (who they wrecked just the previous season) and faced an inexperienced Thunder squad in the Finals.

You can make all the excuses you want but the truth is 2010-2011 was by far the best version of Miami, and having all the role players in the world doesn't compensate for the fact wade was operating at about 20% of capacity from 2012 onwards.

And yet they still were in their first team and gelling. It's incredible how they reached the finals right off the bat and took 2 games from the team that embarassed and swept Kobe!

2 years later, 2 more titles after they gelled

[masonanddixon]

And yet they still were in their first team and gelling. It's incredible how they reached the finals right off the bat and took 2 games from the team that embarassed and swept Kobe!

2 years later, 2 more titles after they gelled

lol they didn't gel; the competition just became weaker.

[Mr Feeny]

lol they didn't gel; the competition just became weaker.

The competition wasn't weaker. They just had time to gel

[masonanddixon]

The competition wasn't weaker. They just had time to gel

Gel how? Were they giving it to each other in the ass more regularly or some shit?

[Mr Feeny]

Gel how? Were they giving it to each other in the ass more regularly or some shit?

Cohesion. Once they figured out how to play with each other they won 2 the next 2 titles as lebron swept all 4 regular and finals mvps the following two years.