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    Default Re: Who will rank higher all time between Dwyane Wade and Lebron James

    With all that happening it could be a conversation. But this is also assuming Lebron won't win again, which is an unfair assumption.

    Lebron would still be higher.

    And no way in hell this happens anyway

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    Default Re: Who will rank higher all time between Dwyane Wade and Lebron James

    My 3rd grade teacher said "There are no stupid questions". She had clearly not met Kenneth.

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    Default Re: Who will rank higher all time between Dwyane Wade and Lebron James

    Quote Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
    I love your name and picture.. it goes so well with this post and your love fest for lebron



    How does it feel to have to buy all new merchandise every 4 years to replace the stuff you burned
    I don't know why you got so butthurt by that comment, it's a fact Wade jumps up in rankings with a second Finals MVP. Nothing he's done since then has truly increased his ranking

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    Default Re: Who will rank higher all time between Dwyane Wade and Lebron James

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketswin2013
    TBH, Wade. More rings, and he has a ring without LeBron. LeBron does not have a ring without him.
    That's such a stupid argument.
    So if Pippen would have won FMVP in 2000 he would be higher than MJ?

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    Default Re: Who will rank higher all time between Dwyane Wade and Lebron James

    Hypothetically if the Heat do win the title and Wade takes the FMVP, there should be serious consideration for this argument. At the Moment it's LeBron by a mile, even with Wade beating him 2.5 titles to 1.5, LeBron's got the MVP's as well as many other awards than what Wade has. If Wade takes LeBron down in the playoffs though (highly unlikely, although that's what I'm hoping for), and takes home the title, then the gap certainly closes.
    This thread is better reserved though for during a Heat-Cavs ECF.

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    Default Re: Who will rank higher all time between Dwyane Wade and Lebron James

    Quote Originally Posted by Bankaii
    That's such a stupid argument.
    So if Pippen would have won FMVP in 2000 he would be higher than MJ?
    i think a more accurate comparison would be if pippen had 12 championships, 6 finals mvps. and atleast 1-2 regular season mvps


    since those are the ratios in which wade to lebron would be if wade won another title/fmvp and season mvp




    pippen would definitely be ranked ahead of jordan .. regardless of having less season mvps

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    Default Re: Who will rank higher all time between Dwyane Wade and Lebron James

    dwyane wade, the other guy broke every choking record

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    Default Re: Who will rank higher all time between Dwyane Wade and Lebron James

    Quote Originally Posted by Bankaii
    That's such a stupid argument.
    So if Pippen would have won FMVP in 2000 he would be higher than MJ?
    Sarcasm

    Quote Originally Posted by WayOfWade
    Hypothetically if the Heat do win the title and Wade takes the FMVP, there should be serious consideration for this argument. At the Moment it's LeBron by a mile, even with Wade beating him 2.5 titles to 1.5, LeBron's got the MVP's as well as many other awards than what Wade has. If Wade takes LeBron down in the playoffs though (highly unlikely, although that's what I'm hoping for), and takes home the title, then the gap certainly closes.
    This thread is better reserved though for during a Heat-Cavs ECF.
    If the Heat do win the title and Wade wins Finals MVP with a great run then he probably is a Consensus Top 15 Player All-Time. Wade beating Lebron to a Title & Finals MVP would be sweet. Bron would still have the MVPs but they would be equal in Finals MVPs and Wade would have double Bron's Titles. Now looking at it, Bron would still be ranked higher but it's closer than people would think. However, this is assuming Bron doesn't win again. My question is how people would rank Wade vs guys usually in the 11-19 range like Dr. J, Moses Malone, KG, etc.

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    Default Re: Who will rank higher all time between Dwyane Wade and Lebron James

    If Lebron hadn't sabotaged the Heat in 2011, then Wade would have been consensus best of the two. Regular season MVPs mean nothing.

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    Default Re: Who will rank higher all time between Dwyane Wade and Lebron James

    Quote Originally Posted by 90sgoat
    If Lebron hadn't sabotaged the Heat in 2011, then Wade would have been consensus best of the two. Regular season MVPs mean nothing.
    You're such an idiot.
    2011 Finals Bronny+Bosh: 36.3/14.5/7.8 on 45% per game.
    2013 Final Wade+Bosh: 31.5/12.9/6.7 on 47% per game.
    So Wade had more help from his 2nd&3rd options in '11 against a worse team yet he couldn't win while Lebron could with less help against a better team in '13.

    Don't get me wrong, Lebron CHOKED on donkey dick in 2011, but Wade couldn't won that series, don't act like he was flawless.
    Last edited by Bankaii; 08-31-2015 at 07:29 PM.

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    Default Re: Who will rank higher all time between Dwyane Wade and Lebron James

    Quote Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
    i think a more accurate comparison would be if pippen had 12 championships, 6 finals mvps. and atleast 1-2 regular season mvps


    since those are the ratios in which wade to lebron would be if wade won another title/fmvp and season mvp




    pippen would definitely be ranked ahead of jordan .. regardless of having less season mvps
    You need help.

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    Default Re: Who will rank higher all time between Dwyane Wade and Lebron James

    Wade is higher as of right now.

    A legit title in Cleveland may help Bran leapfrog Wade.

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    Default Re: Who will rank higher all time between Dwyane Wade and Lebron James

    Regardless of who you choose, they're both securely ranked below Bosh

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    Default Re: Who will rank higher all time between Dwyane Wade and Lebron James

    is this a joke?

    so one good season in 2009 and a fluke championship in 2006 (horribly officiated) is all that matters here?

    wade was lebron's sidekick for 90% of the duo's tenure. lebron also won 2 mvps in miami along with 2 finals mvp, b2b, in both their championships. to go with those championships, lebron did GOAT heavylifting - carrying a team like we haven't seen since shaq in 2000 and hakeem in 1994.


    and those are just the miami years. in cleveland he won 2 mvps and took a cast of trash to the finals.


    lebron outplays wade h2h, is a much better all-around player, statistically, and by all objective measures e.g. advanced data.


    there is a reason the open court crew didn't even want to put wade in their "next 10" (after the top 50, the top 10 of this generation). he is never healthy, lazy, and his game hasn't adjusted since he lost his athleticism.

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    Default Re: Who will rank higher all time between Dwyane Wade and Lebron James

    Quote Originally Posted by mehyaM24
    is this a joke?

    so one good season in 2009 and a fluke championship in 2006 (horribly officiated) is all that matters here?

    wade was lebron's sidekick for 90% of the duo's tenure. lebron also won 2 mvps in miami along with 2 finals mvp, b2b, in both their championships. to go with those championships, lebron did GOAT heavylifting - carrying a team like we haven't seen since shaq in 2000 and hakeem in 1994.


    and those are just the miami years. in cleveland he won 2 mvps and took a cast of trash to the finals.


    lebron outplays wade h2h, is a much better all-around player, statistically, and by all objective measures e.g. advanced data.


    there is a reason the open court crew didn't even want to put wade in their "next 10" (after the top 50, the top 10 of this generation). he is never healthy, lazy, and his game hasn't adjusted since he lost his athleticism.

    meltdown

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