Kobe has a -27.1 net on/off rating so far this season

[TheMarkMadsen]

Defense:
Prime Lebron ON: 116.9
Prime Lebron OFF: 93.8

+23.1

Ouch. Chasing MJ?

OP LOOK AWAY!!

[Mr Feeny]

I've never seen such a negative defensive impact from one player. It's unreal. With him on the court, there's a marginal difference in their offense. With him off the court, they're a great defensive squad but when he's in... they're the worst defense of all time

I didn't think he was this bad. These numbers are mind-boggling.

[Heavincent]

Defense:
Prime Lebron ON: 116.9
Prime Lebron OFF: 93.8

+23.1

Ouch. Chasing MJ?

[DonDadda59]

Still playing better than prime Lebron

Children, please. Stop the bickering. Can we all agree that stats and the eye test show that both Kobe and LeBron suck ass this year and their teams are suffering as a result?

1-8 combined records? Yuck.

[heyhey]

OP weeping softly, biting his bottom lip, losing hope


we are all witnesses

[Droid101]

Supporting cast is irrelevant. This stat is literally comparing him to his cast. So if his cast sucks it means he's even worse. And once again, this thread is about Kobe. Not LeBron.

Jeremy Lin has the same net =/- this year at -81. Carlos Boozer is a few points behind that at -69. Wes Johnson is at -50.

5 of the worst 7 +/- scores are Lakers.

Bu bu bu bu it's Kobe's fault!!!

[For_Three]

Defense:
Prime Lebron ON: 116.9
Prime Lebron OFF: 93.8

+23.1

Ouch. Chasing MJ?

OP Owned.

[Mr Feeny]

Jeremy Lin has the same net =/- this year at -81. Carlos Boozer is a few points behind that at -69. Wes Johnson is at -50.

5 of the worst 7 +/- scores are Lakers.

Bu bu bu bu it's Kobe's fault!!!

If they're at 128 on the defensive with him in, then YEAH it is his fault

[chazzy]

Children, please. Stop the bickering. Can we all agree that stats and the eye test show that both Kobe and LeBron suck ass this year and their teams are suffering as a result?

Lol, is it not more surprising that a prime Lebron's defensive impact is almost as bad as a 36 y/o after two major injuries? What did you guys really expect of Kobe this year

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Defense:
Prime Lebron ON: 116.9
Prime Lebron OFF: 93.8

+23.1

Ouch. Chasing MJ?

Overall LeBron is at about a -17. Much better than Kobe. And no one is saying LeBron is playing well yet people legitimately think Kobe is. Anyways, this thread is about Kobe not LeBron. Why do Kobe fans always bring him up?

[MastaKilla]

Defense:
Prime Lebron ON: 116.9
Prime Lebron OFF: 93.8

+23.1

Ouch. Chasing MJ?

[heyhey]

Overall LeBron is at about a -17. Much better than Kobe. And no one is saying LeBron is playing well yet people legitimately think Kobe is. Anyways, this thread is about Kobe not LeBron. Why do Kobe fans always bring him up?

Maybe cause the tagline under your screenname says

"CEO OF LEBRON FAMILY"

Who you trying to fool dawg?

[riseagainst]

If they're at 128 on the defensive with him in, then YEAH it is his fault

if kobe is playing 1v5 and still managing to keep their offense to 128 then that's impressive.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Jeremy Lin has the same net =/- this year at -81. Carlos Boozer is a few points behind that at -69. Wes Johnson is at -50.

5 of the worst 7 +/- scores are Lakers.

Bu bu bu bu it's Kobe's fault!!!

Do I really need to explain the difference between raw plus minus and net on/off rating to you?

[Mr Feeny]

Overall LeBron is at about a -17. Much better than Kobe. And no one is saying LeBron is playing well yet people legitimately think Kobe is. Anyways, this thread is about Kobe not LeBron. Why do Kobe fans always bring him up?

because they have nothing to answer with. They know just how horrific Kobe is at this point