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College star
James Haden's Eurostep of the Year
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Great college starter
Re: James Haden's Eurostep of the Year
Looks like a travel to me
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infamous souvlaki
Re: James Haden's Eurostep of the Year
Originally Posted by SyRyanYang
Looks like a travel to me
Does seem that way in slowmo
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Re: James Haden's Eurostep of the Year
Originally Posted by SyRyanYang
Looks like a travel to me
I thought it looked pretty darn textbook. He did not gather until that left foot hit the ground then was in the air with the next step.
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#Trump4Treason
Re: James Haden's Eurostep of the Year
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NBA sixth man of the year
Re: James Haden's Eurostep of the Year
Definitely not a travel...........
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Re: James Haden's Eurostep of the Year
Originally Posted by nathanjizzle
Not a travel
this
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Re: James Haden's Eurostep of the Year
Originally Posted by SyRyanYang
Looks like a travel to me
That looks pretty legal. Two long stride steps. His change of direction probably makes it seem like an extra step was intitiated
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Samurai Chef
Re: James Haden's Eurostep of the Year
I love when people call travel on plays like these. You guys need to learn how to identify which foot a player gathers their step.
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Local High School Star
Re: James Haden's Eurostep of the Year
Actually it is a travel imo. the last ball bounce was before he set his right foot. so after the bounce he went right-left-right which is 3 steps which would be a travel but usually they don't call that in the NBA.
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Next Great White Hope
Re: James Haden's Eurostep of the Year
and right after, he did his classic defense
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Dunking on everybody in the park
Re: James Haden's Eurostep of the Year
It's a travel. Even NBA video rulebook says it's a travel. The "gather" step counts as a step as well.
http://www.nba.com/videorulebook/category.html?cid=75
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Raps
Re: James Haden's Eurostep of the Year
Technically if you go by the rulebook it is a travel. But such travels never ever gets called for some reason even in europe.
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3-time NBA All-Star
Re: James Haden's Eurostep of the Year
dwade, lebron and any PG in the league would average 4+ travels a game if the refs were to call those
time to just change the rulebook
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Re: James Haden's Eurostep of the Year
Originally Posted by 2swift4u
Actually it is a travel imo. the last ball bounce was before he set his right foot. so after the bounce he went right-left-right which is 3 steps which would be a travel but usually they don't call that in the NBA.
With respect, the last bounce is not what distinguishes a travel from a non-travel. The time of the gather is what is important (that is, when a player has definitively picked up his dribble). A player could theoretically bounce the basketball, do a 9-step jig while it's hovering in the air, then grab the ball & shoot under legal means.
In Harden's case, the gather was not induced until after the right foot was planted, so he had two steps to work with thereafter. Those ended up being the hard step to the left, then the counter step back to the right.
Here's a closer look. The "third" step has already been completed, with the ball not yet gathered. Harden is in the process of gathering the ball here, and will have completed the gathering process as he plants the initial left foot (step 1), followed by the cut back (step 2).
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