is there still anyone on here that still think Miami is the team to beat?

[jzek]

The team that took them to 7 games last season recently added:

* Scola
* Bynum
* Turner

Plus the continued improvement of:

* Hibbert
* Stephenson
* George


Let's compare Miami... they added:

* Oden
* Beasley

Plus the continued decline of:

* Everyone not named LeBron or Bosh


Someone PLEASE tell me how Miami can beat an All-Star team like the Pacers? I just don't see it.

[IncarceratedBob]

They have arguably the greatest player in NBA history in his peak prime. You cant count any team with that type of player out. But we are the favorite now, we just play too physical for them. Should be a great series

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Until they lose, how could they not be? This isn't like the Mavs a few years ago. A core of 3 straight Finals, back-to-back championships, with arguably the best player on the planet.

[navy]

The Pacers are overrated. I bet the Heat will get the one seed.

[SilkkTheShocker]

I can't wait to bump these threads again after the Finals. I had fun doing the same thing last summer also

[BoutPractice]

This isn't how it works. Opinions that "X got better while Y stayed the same" are historically a terrible predictor of championship success. You could've said something like that before every Bulls championship.

[FKAri]

They have arguably the greatest player in NBA history in his peak prime.

He has no argument.

[IncarceratedBob]

He has no argument.

On accolades/awards/rings I agree

But on peak PLAY? He's doing things people have never done. He's definitely in the argument of best player of all time

[HomieWeMajor]

Riley gonna drop the hot ish like Pac in 94
Threads will be bumped and gifs will be posted and forums will be crashed before its all said and done.

[oh the horror]

Miami are the champs. Has that changed yet?

[moe94]

He has no argument.

He has an argument for greatest all around player. It's an argument because I'm arguing with you. It's there. Case closed.

[All Net]

Champs till proven otherwise

[Milbuck]

He has an argument for greatest all around player. It's an argument because I'm arguing with you. It's there. Case closed.

Come on moe.

Greatest all around player =/= greatest player.

Impact and effectiveness is what matters. Lebron literally has no genuine argument over peak Shaq/MJ. We can all put him in the conversation because his peak truly is remarkable, but when it comes down to it, he just doesn't measure up equally.

[russwest0]

Champs till proven otherwise

2011 Lakers?

[CelticBaller]

Miami are the champs. Has that changed yet?

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