"LeBron faced weak competition into the finals. Jordan didn't, 6/6 > 2/5"

[mehyaM24]

why this argument is dumb? below i have a combination of all-star / all-nba selection and metrics(data) that denounces the title in my OP.

all-stars & all-nba teamers ATT, who lebron & jordan faced on their way to the finals:

2007- carter/kidd _ arenas/butler _ hamilton/prince/billups
2011- rose/noah _ kg/pierce/allen/rondo
2012- carmelo/chandler/amare _ kg/pierce/rondo
2013- noah/deng _ george/hibbert/west
2014- jj_ george/west/hibbert

1991- ewing _ barkley/hawkins _ thomas/rodman
1992- ewing _ daughtery/price/nance
1993_ wilkins _ ewing/stars _ daughtery/price/nance

here we see 3 teams jordan faced with just ONE all-nba teamer/all-star. otoh, lebron faced only one team with such a combination, and all but ONE with at least 2 from each category. moreover, lebron has faced one team with 4. jordan didn't.


next up, we see the metrics. here's what today's defensive rating and offensive rating says:

from 2012-14, there were 33 teams with a defensive rating below 103 - 5 teams with a 99 drtg or lower

from 1991-93, there was 1 team with a defensive rating below 103 - the knicks

from 2012-14, there were 13 teams with an offensive rating of 110+
from 1991-93, there 22 teams with an offensive rating of 110+

what do we get from this information? not only are today's defensive schemes and overall TEAM defenses better (holding opponents to less points per 100 possessions - what teams average on each end), but also that nobody played consistent defense during jordan's BEST years (ORtg says more teams in the 90s scored more points per 100 possessions - what teams average on each end). this is ALL you need to know about defenses from THEN and today

[knicksman]

IN math, there is fraction form and decimal form. Once you convert 6/6 and 2/5 to decimal it becomes 1.00 and 0.4. So only dumb people would think 0.4>>1.00. So its really dumb OP.

[mehyaM24]

IN math, there is fraction form and decimal form. Once you convert 6/6 and 2/5 to decimal it becomes 1.00 and 0.4. So only dumb people would think 0.4>>1.00. So its really dumb OP.

read my post, and you'll see WHY making this claim is beyond idiotic & not within context.

[Optimus Prime]

LeBron's "competition" in The Least has been historically among the worst ever. Numbers don't lie.

Oh, and LeBron is 2/5.

[knicksman]

read my post, and you'll see WHY making this claim is beyond idiotic & not within context.

youre asking if its dumb or not, right? So its really dumb, according to math, if you think 6/6 is not greater than 2/5.

[mehyaM24]

youre asking if its dumb or not, right? So its really dumb, according to math, if you think 6/6 is not greater than 2/5.

look at the years i posted in my OP. if that isn't enough to tell you i am not drawing parallels, mathematically, to 6/6 & 2/5, i don't know what to say.

[Chadwin]

How many times did Jordan's teams face .500 or worse teams in the playoffs?

[knicksman]

look at the years i posted in my OP. if that isn't enough to tell you i am not drawing parallels, mathematically, to 6/6 & 2/5, i don't know what to say.

My bad its not dumb. Yeah I agree with you that 6/6 is greater than 2/5

[IncarceratedBob]

People don't understand the notion that 6/6 is better than 6/10 or 6/12.

[mehyaM24]

btw, the only reason i compared these specific seasons was because of their ages.

in 2014, lebron was 29. jordan was 29 in 1993, turning 30 midway into the season (where the comparison stops).

[cruthikai352]

are you missing a few seasons from Jordan on purpose?

[pauk]

People don't understand the notion that 6/6 is better than 6/10 or 6/12.

How exactly is missing playoffs/losing earlier than Finals better?
How exactly does going to 4 or 6 more Finals take ANYTHING away from Jordan?

Please, tell us.... this will be the most extremly interesting yet.... cant wait....

PS: Your comment can be understood in two entirely opposite ways lol, forget this if you meant this in the opposite way.

[knicksman]

How exactly is missing playoffs/losing earlier than Finals better?
How exactly does going to 4 or 6 more Finals take ANYTHING away from Jordan?

Please, tell us.... this will be the most extremly interesting yet.... cant wait....

because 2/5<<6/6

[mehyaM24]

are you missing a few seasons from Jordan on purpose?

read the post above yours. i believe i covered all basis here. the "6/6 > 2/5" in my thread title is merely a retort jordan fans use (just look itt) - but where i drew a connection was noting both jordan & lebron's competition prior to the finals up until last year (same ages).

[Chadwin]

I'm too lazy to do this right now so somebody get me the W/L% of Jordan's playoff opponents and LeBron's.