The Truth about Lebron's efficiency

[FKAri]

Imagine that man. Then it would be GAME OVER. He would have to find another Career

NBA would shut down. No one would be able to score then.

RIP NBA 1946-2016
Cause of death: Everyone forgot how to play the moment your favorite players retired

[LostCause]

Imagine if Lebron had to deal with men allowed to sit in the paint and guard the rim.

He'd adjust, and develop a superior midrange game than he has now

Just like if Jordan played today he'd develop a superior 3 point shot than he had in his career

These players are hall of famers with crazy work ethics. They'd do what it takes to be most effective

[swagga]

Kobe in RS - 32.9% 3pt%
LeBron in the RS - 34% 3pt%

Kobe in the PO's - 33.1% 3pt%
LeBron in the PO's - 32.1% 3p%

Kobe in the Finals - 34% 3pt%
LeBron in the Finals - 37% 3pt%

Kobe is also a career 40.2% shooter from the midrange and LeBron is at 38.41%. Since '01, Kobe took 13.35 jumpshots a game in the PO's and made 5.29 of them at 39.66%. LeBron, since '06 (his first PO's), took 13.53 jumpshots a game in the PO's and made 4.75 of them at 35.06%.

There's a reason at to why LeBron is a better scorer in the PO's, Finals, G7's, and elimination games.

40+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 5
Kobe - 1

35+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 8
Kobe - 4

30+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 15
Kobe - 13

Total number of games played in the Finals:

LeBron - 40
Kobe - 37

LeBron scored more against the "powerhouse" West, while Kobe sucked balls against the "shit" East.

45+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 7
Kobe - 5

40+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 17
Kobe - 13

35+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 37
Kobe - 35

30+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 84
Kobe - 88

Total number of games played in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 199
Kobe - 220

LeBron in the finals:



Kobe in the Finals:



Eliminaton Game Averages:

LeBron James (Team record - 10-8):

[COLOR="Red"]32.6 PPG 10.7 RPG 7.1 APG 1.6 SPG 1.1 BPG 3.9 TO's 46.7% FG 68.2% FT[/COLOR]

Kobe Bryant (Team record - 8-10):

[COLOR="DarkOrange"]22.0 PPG 5.7 RPG 3.4 APG 1.0 SPG 0.67 BPG 41.6% FG 77.6% FT 25.9% 3pt[/COLOR]

LeBron plays better against the West than the East.



PO buzzer beater GW's:

LeBron - 3
Kobe - 1

shut it down lol

[Lebron23]

Kobe in RS - 32.9% 3pt%
LeBron in the RS - 34% 3pt%

Kobe in the PO's - 33.1% 3pt%
LeBron in the PO's - 32.1% 3p%

Kobe in the Finals - 34% 3pt%
LeBron in the Finals - 37% 3pt%

Kobe is also a career 40.2% shooter from the midrange and LeBron is at 38.41%. Since '01, Kobe took 13.35 jumpshots a game in the PO's and made 5.29 of them at 39.66%. LeBron, since '06 (his first PO's), took 13.53 jumpshots a game in the PO's and made 4.75 of them at 35.06%.

There's a reason at to why LeBron is a better scorer in the PO's, Finals, G7's, and elimination games.

40+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 5
Kobe - 1

35+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 8
Kobe - 4

30+ point games in the Finals:

LeBron - 15
Kobe - 13

Total number of games played in the Finals:

LeBron - 40
Kobe - 37

LeBron scored more against the "powerhouse" West, while Kobe sucked balls against the "shit" East.

45+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 7
Kobe - 5

40+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 17
Kobe - 13

35+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 37
Kobe - 35

30+ games in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 84
Kobe - 88

Total number of games played in the Playoffs:

LeBron - 199
Kobe - 220

LeBron in the finals:



Kobe in the Finals:



Eliminaton Game Averages:

LeBron James (Team record - 10-8):

[COLOR="Red"]32.6 PPG 10.7 RPG 7.1 APG 1.6 SPG 1.1 BPG 3.9 TO's 46.7% FG 68.2% FT[/COLOR]

Kobe Bryant (Team record - 8-10):

[COLOR="DarkOrange"]22.0 PPG 5.7 RPG 3.4 APG 1.0 SPG 0.67 BPG 41.6% FG 77.6% FT 25.9% 3pt[/COLOR]

LeBron plays better against the West than the East.



PO buzzer beater GW's:

LeBron - 3
Kobe - 1

/End Thread

[Da_Realist]

The Truth about Lebron's efficiency

Note to Admin: Please do not close this thread as it contains valuable Advanced Stats. You can close the other thread that I created that refers to the same stat.

I was suprised when I saw these numbers.

These are lebron's playoff FG% by distance (measured by feet from the basket)


0-2 72%
3-9 38%
10-15 34%
16<3 36%
3P 32%

Lebron's FG% is LESS than 40% outside of 2 feet from the basket. A basketball court is 94 by 50 feet.

Are these career numbers?

[Da_Realist]

Yes

I didn't know he was that bad. That's unbelievable. I would love to see Bird's shots broken down by distance. Where did you find this, bball-ref?

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

I didn't know he was that bad. That's unbelievable. I would love to see Bird's shots broken down by distance. Where did you find this, bball-ref?

Didn't know that either, although I never needed OP's info to know that its easier to stop LeBron in an isolated, mano y mano possession. Or at least compared to the likes of Jordan, Bird, Kobe, and hell, probably even Wade at his best.

Guess that comes from...wait for it...actually watching basketball games. A foreign concept around these parts, I know.

[tpols]

I didn't know he was that bad. That's unbelievable. I would love to see Bird's shots broken down by distance. Where did you find this, bball-ref?

im pretty sure it only goes back to like early 2000s on bball ref

[Dave3]

Duncan and Shaq's FG% from 3-9 is over 40%
Duncan's FG% from 10-15 is 39% which is greater than Lebron's

Duncan is a better Mid-Range scorer than Lebron

Does the same logic hold true when LeBron shoots better than Kobe from 3 point range? Or does context matter only there because of the quality of shots taken?

Just wanna know the rules to this game.

[SamuraiSWISH]

The truth is in Miami he very obviously protected it. Him and Wade even admitted to having FG efficiency side bets. It was ridiculously padded those seasons.

Part of the reason he has been so likable the past two seasons is he no longer has that luxury. He just goes out and has to ball out. Like in both last year and this year's Finals.

[34-24 Footwork]

I didn't know he was that bad. That's unbelievable. I would love to see Bird's shots broken down by distance. Where did you find this, bball-ref?

I aint gonna lie, Lebron is one of the best players I've seen with my two eyes.

But i had no clue his shooting numbers were like this either. I knew he really couldn't shoot, even though he'd make some jumpers, uncharacteristically.

I mean....holy shit. Dude is practically a post player masquerading as a perimeter guy. Which is incredible..but has led to some serious issues (2011, 2015, 2014).

Without fastbreak points/easy layups, his game is practically neutralized from a scoring perspective.

Luckily, he still has the size and athleticism to carry him.

[RRR3]

Carmelo shoots below 40% outside of 2 feet in the playoffs too, I'm not sure what your point is.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/...anthoca01.html

[Smoke117]

Didn't know that either, although I never needed OP's info to know that its easier to stop LeBron in an isolated, mano y mano possession. Or at least compared to the likes of Jordan, Bird, Kobe, and hell, probably even Wade at his best.

Guess that comes from...wait for it...actually watching basketball games. A foreign concept around these parts, I know.

lol...probably even Wade? It's harder to stop a prime Wade one on one than it is a prime Kobe. You can force Kobe to take the jump shot (he wants to settle for it anyway), but you're not going to stay in front of Wade...Kobe himself knows that from first-hand experience.

[SamuraiSWISH]

lol...probably even Wade? It's harder to stop a prime Wade one on one than it is a prime Kobe. You can force Kobe to take the jump shot (he wants to settle for it anyway), but you're not going to stay in front of Wade.

Healthy prime Wade, I could agree. Proof is in the pudding in their production against those Rasheed / Big Ben / Tayshaun mid 2000's Detroit defenses. The 2004 team isn't all that different from 2005 or 2006.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

lol...probably even Wade? It's harder to stop a prime Wade one on one than it is a prime Kobe. You can force Kobe to take the jump shot (he wants to settle for it anyway), but you're not going to stay in front of Wade...Kobe himself knows that from first-hand experience.

I only said "probably" because of Wade's 3PT shot, or lack thereof, and inconsistent midrange.

At the peak of his powers, and when his jumper is falling down, Wade is the greatest 2-guard of all time not named MJ.