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Old 10-18-2018, 07:51 PM   #16
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Default Re: Bran is mumble rap and ghost writing and Kobe is Eminem...

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Lol at this dude trying to talk shit about my fantasy team when he didn't even draft his. RHJ was injured and didnt' play, Olynyk was poop (may drop him anyways) and my best player ("Bran") hasn't even played yet. Not to mention Lonzo and Kris Dunn haven't played yet either. Fail.


I'm sure you noticed Drummond went off though. Paul George for Drummond and Draymond

I've made the most moves in the league, regardless if I missed the draft.

You think Drummond is better than PG.
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Old 10-18-2018, 07:54 PM   #17
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Default Re: Bran is mumble rap and ghost writing and Kobe is Eminem...

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Kobe isnt Eminem. Eminem is larry bird. Not just for the obvious reason either. Bird was big purely off technical proficiency. He was just too good at too many skills. Kobe while really close to that was still a great great athlete. Bird had nothing to lean on except his skill. The black/white aspect is just frosting.

Really....

Kobe is more Talib Kweli. There are those who have him in the GOAT conversation....and you can understand why....even though he arguably wasnt the best rapper in his own group(Mos Def being Shaq). He has the technical proficiency and wordplay such as:


Getting knowledge in jail like a blessing in disguise
Look in the skies for God, what you see besides the smog
Is broken dreams flying away on the wings of the obscene
The thoughts that people put in the air
In places where you could get murdered over a glare
But everything is fair
It's a paradox we call reality
Where keeping it real will make you casualty of abnormal normality
We Killers Born Naturally like, Micky and Mallory
Not knowing the ways'll get you capped like an NBA salary


And the respect of the giants of his industry like Jay Z who said:

Music business hate me ‘cause the industry ain't make me
Hustlers and boosters embrace me and the music I be making
I dumbed down for my audience to double my dollars
They criticized me for it, yet they all yell "holla"
If skills sold, truth be told, I'd probably be lyrically Talib Kweli
Truthfully I wanna rhyme like Common Sense
But I did 5 mill' – I ain't been rhyming like Common since


And it is in this same verse....you see why Lebron is Jay Z not mumble rappers.

The way Jay put it...he had to cheat(which you no doubt say Lebron did) by putting out worse but more easily accessible music for the fans to get paid. He dumbed down for his audience to double his dollars. Lebron formed a super team. And as he mentioned....they criticized him for it but they all yell "Holla" as in...they hated initially but they all fell in line.

Then adding what you said?





Jay Z is arguably a better businessman than rapper, has been openly racist, has made songs about cheating on his wife, and openly dumbed down his rap to get popular and was accused of stealing rhymes...the biggest broken rule in hip hop. It got so out of hand he had to mention it on a song saying

"Im not a biter im a writer for myself and other I say a Big verse im only bigging up my brother"

And on top of it?

Everyone Jay Z signs...even the potential stars...mysteriously have worse careers than it looked like they should.

Beanie Sigel....Memphis Bleek....Amil...Big L got killed when he was gonna sign. Anyone seen Chris and Neef lately?

The one young guy who became a massive success? Kanye. Who had to leave him just like Kyrie left Lebron.

And some would argue...Kanye was the real MVP of Jay Zs greatest moment...the Blueprint. Kanye produced 5 classics for that album and started what Jay called the trend of "Got your producers looping up soul. Its like you trying to make the Blueprint 2 before Hov!".

Kanye is now a much bigger name than Jay Z and is actually even richer hovering somewhere near a billion dollars.

Any way you look at it....

Jay Z is Lebron.

Bird is Eminem.

Kobe is one of those guys who is more respected by his peers than hes likely to be in history. As Jay Z...if skills sold truth be told....that who he would be.

But skills dont sell. So he signed with the Heat to rule the world.

You criticize him for it...but the fans yell "Holla!" so he doesnt care.

Not that I agree with everything, but great thought out post as usual.

And definitely something i'm contemplating.
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Old 10-18-2018, 07:54 PM   #18
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lil pump > Eminem

You would actually believe this tho hahahahha
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Old 10-18-2018, 07:54 PM   #19
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I've made the most moves in the league, regardless if I missed the draft.

You think Drummond is better than PG.
In this kind of league with these settings? Yes, easily.

In real life? Hell no.


But you're too dumb to tell the difference.
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Old 10-18-2018, 07:56 PM   #20
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Eminem is a 90s rapper stuck in a generation he doesnt relate to. Only reason he is being marketed these days is because he is white.
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Old 10-18-2018, 07:56 PM   #21
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Agreed both Em and BrickBe are the most overrated at what they do
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Old 10-18-2018, 07:57 PM   #22
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Default Re: Bran is mumble rap and ghost writing and Kobe is Eminem...

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Originally Posted by Kblaze8855
Kobe isnt Eminem. Eminem is larry bird. Not just for the obvious reason either. Bird was big purely off technical proficiency. He was just too good at too many skills. Kobe while really close to that was still a great great athlete. Bird had nothing to lean on except his skill. The black/white aspect is just frosting.

Really....

Kobe is more Talib Kweli. There are those who have him in the GOAT conversation....and you can understand why....even though he arguably wasnt the best rapper in his own group(Mos Def being Shaq). He has the technical proficiency and wordplay such as:


Getting knowledge in jail like a blessing in disguise
Look in the skies for God, what you see besides the smog
Is broken dreams flying away on the wings of the obscene
The thoughts that people put in the air
In places where you could get murdered over a glare
But everything is fair
It's a paradox we call reality
Where keeping it real will make you casualty of abnormal normality
We Killers Born Naturally like, Micky and Mallory
Not knowing the ways'll get you capped like an NBA salary


And the respect of the giants of his industry like Jay Z who said:

Music business hate me ‘cause the industry ain't make me
Hustlers and boosters embrace me and the music I be making
I dumbed down for my audience to double my dollars
They criticized me for it, yet they all yell "holla"
If skills sold, truth be told, I'd probably be lyrically Talib Kweli
Truthfully I wanna rhyme like Common Sense
But I did 5 mill' – I ain't been rhyming like Common since


And it is in this same verse....you see why Lebron is Jay Z not mumble rappers.

The way Jay put it...he had to cheat(which you no doubt say Lebron did) by putting out worse but more easily accessible music for the fans to get paid. He dumbed down for his audience to double his dollars. Lebron formed a super team. And as he mentioned....they criticized him for it but they all yell "Holla" as in...they hated initially but they all fell in line.

Then adding what you said?





Jay Z is arguably a better businessman than rapper, has been openly racist, has made songs about cheating on his wife, and openly dumbed down his rap to get popular and was accused of stealing rhymes...the biggest broken rule in hip hop. It got so out of hand he had to mention it on a song saying

"Im not a biter im a writer for myself and other I say a Big verse im only bigging up my brother"

And on top of it?

Everyone Jay Z signs...even the potential stars...mysteriously have worse careers than it looked like they should.

Beanie Sigel....Memphis Bleek...Camron...Amil...Big L got killed when he was gonna sign. Anyone seen Chris and Neef lately?

The one young guy who became a massive success? Kanye. Who had to leave him just like Kyrie left Lebron.

And some would argue...Kanye was the real MVP of Jay Zs greatest moment...the Blueprint. Kanye produced 5 classics for that album and started what Jay called the trend of "Got your producers looping up soul. Its like you trying to make the Blueprint 2 before Hov!" much like haters claim Kyrie was the 2016 MVP.

Kanye is now a much bigger name than Jay Z and is actually even richer hovering somewhere near a billion dollars.

Any way you look at it....

Jay Z is Lebron.

Bird is Eminem.

Kobe is one of those guys who is more respected by his peers than hes likely to be in history. As Jay said...if skills sold truth be told....thats who he would be.

But skills dont sell. So he signed with the Heat to rule the world.

You criticize him for it...but the fans yell "Holla!" so he doesnt care.
Amazing post. Would love to hear your comparisons for the rest of the top 10 like Jordan, Kareem, Wilt, Russell, Duncan, Magic, Hakeem etc.
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Old 10-18-2018, 07:58 PM   #23
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Old 10-18-2018, 08:05 PM   #24
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Eminem is a 90s rapper stuck in a generation he doesnt relate to. Only reason he is being marketed these days is because he is white.

Typical racist view about Eminem.

You're Zeke and Rodman on Bird.

But your hate fueled Kamikaze, a complete surprise release with ZERO marketing that has blown the roof off of the hip hop game.

Please continue the racism and hate; THIS Eminem is what hip hop NEEDS right now.
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Old 10-18-2018, 08:07 PM   #25
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Default Re: Bran is mumble rap and ghost writing and Kobe is Eminem...

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Originally Posted by Kblaze8855
Kobe isnt Eminem. Eminem is larry bird. Not just for the obvious reason either. Bird was big purely off technical proficiency. He was just too good at too many skills. Kobe while really close to that was still a great great athlete. Bird had nothing to lean on except his skill. The black/white aspect is just frosting.

Really....

Kobe is more Talib Kweli. There are those who have him in the GOAT conversation....and you can understand why....even though he arguably wasnt the best rapper in his own group(Mos Def being Shaq). He has the technical proficiency and wordplay such as:


Getting knowledge in jail like a blessing in disguise
Look in the skies for God, what you see besides the smog
Is broken dreams flying away on the wings of the obscene
The thoughts that people put in the air
In places where you could get murdered over a glare
But everything is fair
It's a paradox we call reality
Where keeping it real will make you casualty of abnormal normality
We Killers Born Naturally like, Micky and Mallory
Not knowing the ways'll get you capped like an NBA salary


And the respect of the giants of his industry like Jay Z who said:

Music business hate me ‘cause the industry ain't make me
Hustlers and boosters embrace me and the music I be making
I dumbed down for my audience to double my dollars
They criticized me for it, yet they all yell "holla"
If skills sold, truth be told, I'd probably be lyrically Talib Kweli
Truthfully I wanna rhyme like Common Sense
But I did 5 mill' – I ain't been rhyming like Common since


And it is in this same verse....you see why Lebron is Jay Z not mumble rappers.

The way Jay put it...he had to cheat(which you no doubt say Lebron did) by putting out worse but more easily accessible music for the fans to get paid. He dumbed down for his audience to double his dollars. Lebron formed a super team. And as he mentioned....they criticized him for it but they all yell "Holla" as in...they hated initially but they all fell in line.

Then adding what you said?





Jay Z is arguably a better businessman than rapper, has been openly racist, has made songs about cheating on his wife, and openly dumbed down his rap to get popular and was accused of stealing rhymes...the biggest broken rule in hip hop. It got so out of hand he had to mention it on a song saying

"Im not a biter im a writer for myself and other I say a Big verse im only bigging up my brother"

And on top of it?

Everyone Jay Z signs...even the potential stars...mysteriously have worse careers than it looked like they should.

Beanie Sigel....Memphis Bleek...Camron...Amil...Big L got killed when he was gonna sign. Anyone seen Chris and Neef lately?

The one young guy who became a massive success? Kanye. Who had to leave him just like Kyrie left Lebron.

And some would argue...Kanye was the real MVP of Jay Zs greatest moment...the Blueprint. Kanye produced 5 classics for that album and started what Jay called the trend of "Got your producers looping up soul. Its like you trying to make the Blueprint 2 before Hov!" much like haters claim Kyrie was the 2016 MVP.

Kanye is now a much bigger name than Jay Z and is actually even richer hovering somewhere near a billion dollars.

Any way you look at it....

Jay Z is Lebron.

Bird is Eminem.

Kobe is one of those guys who is more respected by his peers than hes likely to be in history. As Jay said...if skills sold truth be told....thats who he would be.

But skills dont sell. So he signed with the Heat to rule the world.

You criticize him for it...but the fans yell "Holla!" so he doesnt care.

Lol your posts aren't usually my style but this was really good. I legit laughed at the Larry and Eminem comparison at how true it is.
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Old 10-18-2018, 08:08 PM   #26
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Amazing post. Would love to hear your comparisons for the rest of the top 10 like Jordan, Kareem, Wilt, Russell, Duncan, Magic, Hakeem etc.


I assure you I started working it out in my head but didnt think anyone needed the novel that was gonna result.

I can get off on a tangent and stay there for 2 hours.
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Old 10-18-2018, 08:09 PM   #27
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Bill Russell is 2Pac. Skilled, but not as skilled as some others, and while not the BEST often considered the GREATEST and impacted the game immensely.


Don't listen to rap much anymore tho tbh.


I wouldn't say Kobe is Talib Kweli. Kobe is pretty insanely famous and popular. Talib isn't at all.
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Old 10-18-2018, 08:22 PM   #28
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Bill Russell is 2Pac. Skilled, but not as skilled as some others, and while not the BEST often considered the GREATEST and impacted the game immensely.


Don't listen to rap much anymore tho tbh.


I wouldn't say Kobe is Talib Kweli. Kobe is pretty insanely famous and popular. Talib isn't at all.

But that comparison is reasonable because Kweli is great and respected by peers as GOAT material, but obviously novice fans wouldn't even contemplate such a notion.

Kobe's peers recognize him in a much higher sense than the overall sentiment; they see the GOAT level skill and fearlessness. Novice fans see box scores.

But get rid of everything that can contribute to a context and Kobe can stand toe to toe with anyone, especially Bran who he has dominated when matched up against one on one.

Basketball to someone like me, a purist and basketball genius, is at heart a one on one sport; if you consider everything else, it becomes impossible to decipher. Kobe and Eminem are arguably the two greatest one on one competitors in history in their professions.
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kobe more like LIL WAYNE..

Eminem more like Bird
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Typical racist view about Eminem.

You're Zeke and Rodman on Bird.

But your hate fueled Kamikaze, a complete surprise release with ZERO marketing that has blown the roof off of the hip hop game.

Please continue the racism and hate; THIS Eminem is what hip hop NEEDS right now.


It's just the truth. I have no agenda against Eminem. And I'm white. Eminem has a huge white fanbase that spends money on his concerts. Thats gonna get him rotation marketing money. It's just market economics.

Eminem is no better than Busta Rhymes. Product of an era of lyricism and hard/fast rhymes.
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