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    Default Re: BREAKING: Cavs officially sign Andrew Wiggins

    Quote Originally Posted by RoundMoundOfReb
    Okay?

    Totally differerent situation with a fringe lottery pick who had already played a season in the NBA vs the top pick in the draft who just signed his contract today & is the most hyped prospect of this era

    If I had said "poor Bennett" then maybe your video would have been relevant.

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    Default Re: BREAKING: Cavs officially sign Andrew Wiggins

    Quote Originally Posted by fpliii
    I know a few posters have suggested it's not the case, but from the start it seemed like Cleveland had 100% of the leverage, and Minny had none whatsoever. Now, the TWolves have complete negotiating power somehow. What changed?
    wolves had all the leverage from the moment lebron asked publicly for love

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    Default Re: BREAKING: Cavs officially sign Andrew Wiggins

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
    Okay?

    Totally differerent situation with a fringe lottery pick who had already played a season in the NBA vs the top pick in the draft who just signed his contract today & is the most hyped prospect of this era

    If I had said "poor Bennett" then maybe your video would have been relevant.
    not really...anthony davis was a better prospect

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    Default Re: BREAKING: Cavs officially sign Andrew Wiggins

    The worst part is how pathetically bad their other offers are.

    Cavs 'bout to give up the farm, essentially bidding against themselves.



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    Default Re: BREAKING: Cavs officially sign Andrew Wiggins

    Quote Originally Posted by robert de niro
    wolves had all the leverage from the moment lebron asked publicly for love
    He actually never publicly asked for Love. So, I guess they don't have the leverage?

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    Default Re: BREAKING: Cavs officially sign Andrew Wiggins

    If they want Wiggins, Cavs should only give them Wiggins and nothing else. Don't lose the depth.

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    Default Re: BREAKING: Cavs officially sign Andrew Wiggins

    Quote Originally Posted by robert de niro
    wolves had all the leverage from the moment lebron asked publicly for love
    cavs reportedly offered the #1 overall pick for Love before the draft but Love said he wouldn't sign..

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    Default Re: BREAKING: Cavs officially sign Andrew Wiggins

    Quote Originally Posted by Nash
    If they want Wiggins, Cavs should only give them Wiggins and nothing else. Don't lose the depth.
    Not possible. There have to be other pieces involved for salary to match.

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    Default Re: BREAKING: Cavs officially sign Andrew Wiggins

    Quote Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
    Not possible. There have to be other pieces involved for salary to match.
    would Wiggins+Fillers from Utah work?

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    Default Re: BREAKING: Cavs officially sign Andrew Wiggins

    Quote Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
    The worst part is how pathetically bad their other offers are.

    Cavs 'bout to give up the farm, essentially bidding against themselves.



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    I hear you, but it's the other stuff that makes this a bad deal.

    If it was the ONLY way to get Love. Wiggins/Bennet is worth it. I know you don't think that, but I could not feel more strongly he is.

    It's the other shit that makes me want to throw up. Wasting valuable cap on Martin. Losing the Haywood contract. Not getting back Dieng. Including a first rounder....or potentially two in order to get Barea to a 3rd team. Losing future pick and assets to get unguaranteed money.

    It's all that other stuff that is the problem.

    If it was Love for Wiggins/Bennet/Lucas (which works money wise)...and that's it? No picks. That is easily worth it.

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    Default Re: BREAKING: Cavs officially sign Andrew Wiggins

    Quote Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
    Not possible. There have to be other pieces involved for salary to match.
    It wouldn't be that hard actually.

    Wiggins, Haywood, and all those unguaranteed contracts would be enough I think.

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    Default Re: BREAKING: Cavs officially sign Andrew Wiggins

    Minnesota definitely has the leverage because there are other teams that want Love...

    Cavs are going to have to gut the roster if they want him...

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    Default Re: BREAKING: Cavs officially sign Andrew Wiggins

    I still don't see the Cavs rolling the dice on Wiggins with Love sitting there.

    They saw just how badly a #1 pick's stock can plummet last year...not sure if they do it again with Lebron coming in trying to win yesterday.

    I say you trade him and don't look back. Lebron + Love + Kyrie...run with it. If Wiggins pans out...cool. But the Cavs can build around that core just fine without Wiggins.
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    Default Re: BREAKING: Cavs officially sign Andrew Wiggins

    Quote Originally Posted by RoundMoundOfReb
    not really...anthony davis was a better prospect
    Debatable, either way your video or point you were trying to make wasnt relevant to this situation.

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    Default Re: BREAKING: Cavs officially sign Andrew Wiggins

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
    Debatable, either way your video or point you were trying to make wasnt relevant to this situation.
    probably more relevant than your rookie lebron for dirk analogy
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