Was Hakeem ever considered better/ greater than MJ?

[G-train]

He was considered better than him in the 1994/1995 season.

[Shih508]

pre-draft? that's why Hakeem was drafted before jordan

[iamgine]

Being voted higher in MVP voting does not necessarily mean people believe you are a better player than someone else. Jordan was universally regarded as the greatest player in basketball in 93'.

Jordan was greater but higher vote means voters chose Hakeem as better in that year's regular season.

[AngelEyes]

Jordan was greater but higher vote means voters chose Hakeem as better in that year's regular season.

No, it means the writers chose him as being "more valuable" as it pertains to their definition of value. Nobody thought he was better than Jordan, a lot of them probably just wanted to give it to someone new, hence the Barkley selection. Magic, Bird and Jordan had won the last 9 mvp's, I think the writers were tired of that.

[AngelEyes]

pre-draft? that's why Hakeem was drafted before jordan

Olajuwon was a big man and big men at the time were still valued more over guards. Jordan was the better all around and individual talent. There's a reason the guy was college player of the year, he was every bit as good as Olajuwon. Bobby Knight was one such person who thought Jordan was the best player coming out of college.

[iamgine]

No, it means the writers chose him as being "more valuable" as it pertains to their definition of value. Nobody thought he was better than Jordan, a lot of them probably just wanted to give it to someone new, hence the Barkley selection. Magic, Bird and Jordan had won the last 9 mvp's, I think the writers were tired of that.

Are you a mind reader now?

[AngelEyes]

Are you a mind reader now?

Who the hell thought he was better? Jordan was gaining steam in the media as being the GOAT, and you think people thought Hakeem was better? Jordan had already won 3 mvp's, 2 finals mvp's, 2 championships, and that year he won his 7th straight scoring title. His play was still the most dominant in the league.

[VIntageNOvel]

yes, Mary Jane was not better than Hakeem, but she had spidey on her team

[Odinn]

In 85-86 season, Hakeem was 4th in MVP voting while MJ was injured that season.

In 92-93 season, Hakeem was above MJ in MVP voting.


So the answer is yes, Hakeem was at some point of time was considered better than MJ.

Nash won his 2nd MVP award in 2006 over Kobe. Heck Kobe was 4th in that year's voting.

Kidd finished MVP race 2nd in 2002, over Shaq and got 32 more 1st place votes. Was Kidd a better player than Shaq in 2001-02 season.

Iverson won the MVP over Duncan&Shaq. Got more 86 1st place votes compared to Shaq. And Shaq should have won the 2001 MVP.

Your logic simply fails.

Hakeem was never better than MJ when both them were healthy. His best case was 1992-93 season but still was not enough.

[G-train]

Hakeem was never better than MJ when both them were healthy. His best case was 1992-93 season but still was not enough.

His best case is 94/95

[iamgine]

Nash won his 2nd MVP award in 2006 over Kobe. Heck Kobe was 4th in that year's voting.

Kidd finished MVP race 2nd in 2002, over Shaq and got 32 more 1st place votes. Was Kidd a better player than Shaq in 2001-02 season.

Iverson won the MVP over Duncan&Shaq. Got more 86 1st place votes compared to Shaq. And Shaq should have won the 2001 MVP.

Your logic simply fails.

Hakeem was never better than MJ when both them were healthy. His best case was 1992-93 season but still was not enough.

Umm Nash was flat out amazing in the regular season. He pretty much wreck defenses and dominated games (offensively that is).

85-86 Hakeem 4th in MVP votes. MJ was injured in only his 2nd season so why wasn't Hakeem considered better that season?

[Odinn]

Umm Nash was flat out amazing in the regular season. He pretty much wreck defenses and dominated games (offensively that is).

Nash wasn't better than Kobe. If you say otherwise, there is no point of arguing with you

85-86 Hakeem 4th in MVP votes. MJ was injured in only his 2nd season so why wasn't Hakeem considered better that season?

I doubt your reading skills.

His best case is 94/95

When I say 'healthy', I meant a full-season with playing most of it. But you're right. MJ's health in 1994-95 season wasn't bad.

[iamgine]

Nash wasn't better than Kobe. If you say otherwise, there is no point of arguing with you

oh opinions

[SamuraiSWISH]

Who the hell thought he was better? Jordan was gaining steam in the media as being the GOAT, and you think people thought Hakeem was better? Jordan had already won 3 mvp's, 2 finals mvp's, 2 championships, and that year he won his 7th straight scoring title. His play was still the most dominant in the league.

Pretty much exactly ... writers were tired of giving it to Jordan. Hell, the guy should've won the MVP in '89, and '90. Hakeem was by no means a better player than Jordan in '93. Hakeem wasn't even the undisputed best player in the league the years MJ wasn't there in '94 and '95. I also think MJ came 2nd in voting that season for DPOY iirc in 1993.

[Odinn]

oh opinions

Thanks for saving my time with your shitty response.