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    Curry better player than Jordan without rim doe. What about without a bsketball?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
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    Formula for true shooting = PTS/(FGA + 0.44 x FTA)

    *[COLOR="indigo"]STEPHEN CURRY[COLOR="White"]K[/COLOR] 2016:[/COLOR][COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 24.9 ppg on 56.5% ts
    [COLOR="White"]*[/COLOR][COLOR="DarkRed"]MICHAEL JORDAN 1988:[/COLOR][COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 34.9 ppg on 60.1% ts


    *thru 55 games


    steph would be a good player in the 70's, but nowhere NEAR the best player in the league.

    today's 3-point obsession has provided spacing, which has watered down the game, including the skill, players, and brand of basketball.
    Jordan had access to a three point line too. It is part of the game, so you can't discount it when evaluating players. This thread wreaks of desperation.

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    I don't get the FMVPs in that picture. Up to 2004 they looked like a basketball. Similar to the 3pt shootout trophy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sd3035

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stout
    Jordan had access to a three point line too. It is part of the game, so you can't discount it when evaluating players. This thread wreaks of desperation.
    In Jordan's era, they didn't have today's 3-point shooting/spacing or the resulting shot strategy that optimizes efficiency (layups/3-pointers/FT's).

    But even though Jordan was playing a brand of basketball that resulted in tougher midrange shots, he still had 4 straight seasons with 31+ PER and 60+ true shooting - Curry can never reach this level of sustained efficiency.

    Otoh, without today's easier shot allocation or 3-point line, Curry wouldn't be anywhere NEAR the best player in the league and his efficiency would be ordinary..

    It's annoying because even though guys like Curry/Klay aren't as good as MJ/Pippen, the 3-point line allows them to achieve similar stats.. But it's clear that MJ/Pippen destroy Curry/Klay as basketball players - their team (the bulls) were just as good WITH the 3-point line, and obviously FAR better without.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
    If the Warriors played in the place of the 96 Bulls in that washed-up league they would easily go 77-5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    In Jordan's era, they didn't have today's 3-point shooting/spacing or the resulting shot strategy that optimizes efficiency (layups/3-pointers/FT's).

    But even though Jordan was playing a brand of basketball that resulted in tougher midrange shots, he still had 4 straight seasons with 31+ PER and 60+ true shooting - Curry can never reach this level of sustained efficiency.

    Otoh, without today's easier shot allocation or 3-point line, Curry wouldn't be anywhere NEAR the best player in the league and his efficiency would be ordinary..

    It's annoying because even though guys like Curry/Klay aren't as good as MJ/Pippen, the 3-point line allows them to achieve similar stats.. But it's clear that MJ/Pippen destroy Curry/Klay as basketball players - their team (the bulls) were just as good WITH the 3-point line, and obviously FAR better without.
    You always talk about how the paint is more clogged/protected in Jordan's era. This means it would be easier to step back and have space for a 3. So which is it, because you can't have it both ways.

    By the way, how much do you cry every night?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stout
    You always talk about how the paint is more clogged/protected in Jordan's era. This means it would be easier to step back and have space for a 3. So which is it, because you can't have it both ways.

    By the way, how much do you cry every night?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stout
    You always talk about how the paint is more clogged/protected in Jordan's era. This means it would be easier to step back and have space for a 3. So which is it, because you can't have it both ways.

    By the way, how much do you cry every night?
    The courts were only a lane back in the 90's, and the ball was bigger than the ring.

    No space. Anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plowking
    The courts were only a lane back in the 90's, and the ball was bigger than the ring.

    No space. Anywhere.
    threes were also worth one point

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    Quote Originally Posted by sd3035
    threes were also worth one point
    Wow, didn't know that.

    Surprised 3ball didn't mention it sooner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plowking
    Hey, guess what? 3 point line existed when Jordan played, and he even had the benefit of a shortened version of it. Not anyones fault but his own he couldn't be a more efficient scorer than Curry.



    Truth


    And if 3's weren't worth so much, Curry wouldn't shoot as many of them. It would still hurt him, but you gotta bump that projected TS% up a few points, and he'd probably be scoring 28ppg

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    If Jordan didn't kill his dad, maybe he doesn't bitch out into a two year retirement. Hypotheticals

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    Quote Originally Posted by 24-Inch_Chrome
    If Jordan didn't kill his dad, maybe he doesn't bitch out into a two year retirement. Hypotheticals
    coincidentally, that happened around the same time as his two year gambling suspension

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