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    Default Re: Could Isiah Thomas be the most underrated player in NBA history.

    Quote Originally Posted by Round Mound
    Isiah Thomas is one of the most overrated players of all time. IMO
    Every one has an opinion I feel Barkley is overrated a very bad teammate never put in the work to get better just depended on his athletic ability. Pippen hated that he was use to Jordan giving 110%. So IYO what makes isiah overrated. No one is calling him a GOAT.

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    Default Re: Could Isiah Thomas be the most underrated player in NBA history.

    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Realist
    Another thing I forgot to mention... Judging what the Pistons team did in 91 without Isiah is about as erroneous as judging what the Bulls did without Jordan in 94. Isiah helped create a culture in Detroit that all those players were weened on. Aguirre was an offensive cancer in Dallas that couldn't even spell defense. When he came to Detroit, Isiah sat him down and told him he would need to change his game to match what the Pistons did. Hustle, play defense, compete. Get your shots when your number is called and support the guy replacing you off the bench. No bitching about shots. No complaining about minutes. No whining about any lack of attention. It was Isiah that established that everyone needs to sacrifice for the better of the team. Isiah was helping the team when he willingly accepted going to the bench if another player was feeling it. How could Aguirre, Rodman, Dumars or Vinnie Johnson complain about minutes or shots when the leader of that team set such an example??? They were all unselfish, hard-nosed and played together on both offense and defense. Isiah set that up. 1991 shouldn't be used against him, it should be used to support him. He made that team great. He made that team believe in themselves. He made that team expect to win any game that was close.

    In other words, Isiah taught them how to fish.

    Speaking of 91... check out the overtime in Game 6 1st Round vs the Boston Celtics. When Detroit needed a guy to step up to close out a game, it was always Isiah.

    This is what most Isiah hates just dont understand. ITs called leadership. Isiah if he wanted to could have avg 30 ppg he could have even had 10-15 apg . Tell me how good was Big Bill in Clev ? Who ever heard of Rodman or Dumars coming out of college? John Sally I mean really. It might have been his worst moment in his career but him walking off the court after losing to the Bulls look how many teammates followed him even when he is wrong his teammates were behind him, Stockton didnt have that kinda leadership.

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    Default Re: Could Isiah Thomas be the most underrated player in NBA history.

    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Realist
    Another thing I forgot to mention... Judging what the Pistons team did in 91 without Isiah is about as erroneous as judging what the Bulls did without Jordan in 94. Isiah helped create a culture in Detroit that all those players were weened on. Aguirre was an offensive cancer in Dallas that couldn't even spell defense. When he came to Detroit, Isiah sat him down and told him he would need to change his game to match what the Pistons did. Hustle, play defense, compete. Get your shots when your number is called and support the guy replacing you off the bench. No bitching about shots. No complaining about minutes. No whining about any lack of attention. It was Isiah that established that everyone needs to sacrifice for the better of the team. Isiah was helping the team when he willingly accepted going to the bench if another player was feeling it. How could Aguirre, Rodman, Dumars or Vinnie Johnson complain about minutes or shots when the leader of that team set such an example??? They were all unselfish, hard-nosed and played together on both offense and defense. Isiah set that up. 1991 shouldn't be used against him, it should be used to support him. He made that team great. He made that team believe in themselves. He made that team expect to win any game that was close.

    In other words, Isiah taught them how to fish.

    Speaking of 91... check out the overtime in Game 6 1st Round vs the Boston Celtics. When Detroit needed a guy to step up to close out a game, it was always Isiah.

    food for thought

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    Default Re: Could Isiah Thomas be the most underrated player in NBA history.

    Quote Originally Posted by Niquesports
    It might have been his worst moment in his career but him walking off the court after losing to the Bulls look how many teammates followed him even when he is wrong his teammates were behind him, Stockton didnt have that kinda leadership.
    Great point

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    Default Re: Could Isiah Thomas be the most underrated player in NBA history.

    Quote Originally Posted by Niquesports
    Every one has an opinion I feel Barkley is overrated a very bad teammate never put in the work to get better just depended on his athletic ability. Pippen hated that he was use to Jordan giving 110%. So IYO what makes isiah overrated. No one is calling him a GOAT.
    EXACTLY. I never understood how someone that respects Pippen so much is so in love with Barkley. Barkley was 90% talent, 10% work. Pippen was 10% talent, 90% work.

    Look at this video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1fpPYTedt4

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    Default Re: Could Isiah Thomas be the most underrated player in NBA history.

    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Realist
    Another thing I forgot to mention... Judging what the Pistons team did in 91 without Isiah is about as erroneous as judging what the Bulls did without Jordan in 94. Isiah helped create a culture in Detroit that all those players were weened on. Aguirre was an offensive cancer in Dallas that couldn't even spell defense. When he came to Detroit, Isiah sat him down and told him he would need to change his game to match what the Pistons did. Hustle, play defense, compete. Get your shots when your number is called and support the guy replacing you off the bench. No bitching about shots. No complaining about minutes. No whining about any lack of attention. It was Isiah that established that everyone needs to sacrifice for the better of the team. Isiah was helping the team when he willingly accepted going to the bench if another player was feeling it. How could Aguirre, Rodman, Dumars or Vinnie Johnson complain about minutes or shots when the leader of that team set such an example??? They were all unselfish, hard-nosed and played together on both offense and defense. Isiah set that up. 1991 shouldn't be used against him, it should be used to support him. He made that team great. He made that team believe in themselves. He made that team expect to win any game that was close.

    In other words, Isiah taught them how to fish.

    Speaking of 91... check out the overtime in Game 6 1st Round vs the Boston Celtics. When Detroit needed a guy to step up to close out a game, it was always Isiah.
    Mark Aquirre talks about sacrifice. He talks about how he went to Isiah and told him he thinks Dennis Rodman should start.

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