Will we ever see real physical basketball ever again?

[egokiller]

https://youtu.be/EL7_dCokJhQ

https://youtu.be/OKjr_3bmmao

Too many examples. More to come.

[LAmbruh]

in fact, that's how your regular NBA game looked back then, not some mythical physical battles until you bleed to death or tap out to avoid a chokehold...

Back when OP was 5yo's in 1989 guys like Antoine Carr seemed like a juggernaut, similar to his Tooth Fairy being real

[egokiller]

Anyone who watched back then knows that guys used to get slammed to the ground and no flagrant was called because it didn

[Ainosterhaspie]

https://youtu.be/EL7_dCokJhQ

https://youtu.be/OKjr_3bmmao

Too many examples. More to come.

First video is a bunch of fights. Has no place in the game, and it's good they got rid of that crap.

Second video has nothing that stands out as different from today. I don't care what former players say. Every generation says the same thing about the next one.

[Ainosterhaspie]

[QUOTE=egokiller]Anyone who watched back then knows that guys used to get slammed to the ground and no flagrant was called because it didn

[egokiller]

First video is a bunch of fights. Has no place in the game, and it's good they got rid of that crap.

Second video has nothing that stands out as different from today. I don't care what former players say. Every generation says the same thing about the next one.

And each generation is spot on as each generation becomes softer than the previous one in all things, not just basketball. It

[egokiller]

Flagrant foul was modified in 1990-1991 and basically made the Pistons illegal. So if you're talking about the 80s, your comment makes sense. But the NBA ushered in a kinder gentler era to begin the 90s. Coincidently Jordan began winning at exactly the same time.

It also makes sense all the way to present day. They started calling every little touch foul on Curry and Klay to the point where defenses were afraid of being whistled and magically they start winning. Go figure.

[MaxPlayer]

[QUOTE=egokiller]And each generation is spot on as each generation becomes softer than the previous one in all things, not just basketball. It

[egokiller]

Yeah and most things have steadily gotten better for 1000+ years despite everyone's bitching.

Define “better”? Spending more to be better to offset the pussification so that the result is being in more debt to China than ever before?

Take the most simple example. More busses and kids being picked up and dropped off in front of their homes is technically “better” but at what additional cost to city residents? Gotta pay more since parents feel their kids are too soft to walk a few blocks to the bus stop and stand in the cold while they wait.

[Manny98]

[QUOTE=egokiller]And each generation is spot on as each generation becomes softer than the previous one in all things, not just basketball. It

[egokiller]

Ok Boomer

Me and those my age wish we were as tough as boomers. At least we are tougher than millennials who are tougher than zoomers.

[Micku]

Flagrant foul was modified in 1990-1991 and basically made the Pistons illegal. So if you're talking about the 80s, your comment makes sense. But the NBA ushered in a kinder gentler era to begin the 90s. Coincidently Jordan began winning at exactly the same time.

Each decade they soften the rules tho. The 70s was more physical than the 80s. The 80s was physical, but the Pistons abused it. You could see the Celts do some stuff. Some flagrant fouls/tech fouls that it's obvious today weren't back then.

90s had the Knicks and the Bulls. But around mid 90s, they soften the rules again with the handchecking. And the Malice at the Palace along with Shaq dominating, big men clogging the paint, slow ass pace, and a bunch of iso ball, they changed the rules to speed up the pace and wing players.

I think they soften the rules again like a year or two ago. LeBron was complaining how they can't even play defense anymore or that it was really difficult? And every player at least once a decade said that since the 70s. I recall ppl saying that about MJ in 1991. Saying how the league soft up since the 70s, but like how the Pistons were guarding him.

Wilt was saying that about Shaq or MJ or something. Doc Rivers complained about the rules changing in 1995 about how they soften up the hand checking and complained about you can't play defense anymore. After 05, ppl complained about it too.

The only time when defense improved and got too good with is when they implemented zone in 2001-02. They put in the 3 defensive sec rule. Stars were complaining about it, but they tried to stop the huge amount of iso ball. Specifically Shaq. It lasted all the way until the 04.

So, naw. I doubt physical play will come back. Some of the stuff could be straight up bad. Like the Pistons cheap shots was bad, and that ain't coming back.

The league notice since Magic, Bird, and MJ that the wing players make the league popular. They would encourage it and make money from it. Plus the spacing and coaching philosophy changed. I doubt they would ever go back, but it depends on the popularity. The league tends to think that scoring=rating. Plus stars. So, they would help with that instead of going back to the 70s or early 00s.

Ooh. And the fights. No fights.

[NBAGOAT]

[QUOTE=egokiller]Define

[egokiller]

god you really are dumb. Pretty sure safety has a lot to do with those changes. Also at the very least technology keeps improving

Safety? No one had a problem back then. What technology improved? More busses being purchased and more bus drivers being hired? Do you even think before you post?

[egokiller]

Each decade they soften the rules tho. The 70s was more physical than the 80s. The 80s was physical, but the Pistons abused it. You could see the Celts do some stuff. Some flagrant fouls/tech fouls that it's obvious today weren't back then.

90s had the Knicks and the Bulls. But around mid 90s, they soften the rules again with the handchecking. And the Malice at the Palace along with Shaq dominating, big men clogging the paint, slow ass pace, and a bunch of iso ball, they changed the rules to speed up the pace and wing players.

I think they soften the rules again like a year or two ago. LeBron was complaining how they can't even play defense anymore or that it was really difficult? And every player at least once a decade said that since the 70s. I recall ppl saying that about MJ in 1991. Saying how the league soft up since the 70s, but like how the Pistons were guarding him.

Wilt was saying that about Shaq or MJ or something. Doc Rivers complained about the rules changing in 1995 about how they soften up the hand checking and complained about you can't play defense anymore. After 05, ppl complained about it too.

The only time when defense improved and got too good with is when they implemented zone in 2001-02. They put in the 3 defensive sec rule. Stars were complaining about it, but they tried to stop the huge amount of iso ball. Specifically Shaq. It lasted all the way until the 04.

So, naw. I doubt physical play will come back. Some of the stuff could be straight up bad. Like the Pistons cheap shots was bad, and that ain't coming back.

The league notice since Magic, Bird, and MJ that the wing players make the league popular. They would encourage it and make money from it. Plus the spacing and coaching philosophy changed. I doubt they would ever go back, but it depends on the popularity. The league tends to think that scoring=rating. Plus stars. So, they would help with that instead of going back to the 70s or early 00s.

Ooh. And the fights. No fights.

Excellent post.