Can We Get Something Straight About Jordan

[eliteballer]

...and really any other player you only know or remember by highlights.

Highlight videos or even certain game videos can have messed up speeds and framerates. We've all seen it.

THIS is what Jordan looks like in real time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8eIIUERDl8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TZRyfjZthE

So this idea some people have that Jordan was quicker than Iverson and Rose, way faster in the open court than LeBron or more explosive than Westbrook just needs to go away.

It's the same reason you see guys who actually played in the NBA like Barkley say things like, "LeBron's just as fast and athletic as Jordan, but he's 50 pounds heavier". A quote which by the way I don't agree with, but applies all the same. They don't have the same illusions that you do with videos.

Go watch the 93 Finals and hear them say, "They're putting KJ on Jordan because he can match Jordan's quickness and not be beat as easily".

The same applies to any player you primarily know/remember off of highlight videos.

It's like another poster once said: "There's a video of Wade on youtube that looks like he was shot out of a cannon".

Keep that in mind for ANY player you see in highlight videos.

[sekachu]

...and really any other player you only know or remember by highlights.

Highlight videos or even certain game videos can have messed up speeds and framerates. We've all seen it.

THIS is what Jordan looks like in real time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8eIIUERDl8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3-to7R2e44

So this idea some people have that Jordan was quicker than Iverson and Rose, way faster in the open court than LeBron or more explosive than Westbrook just needs to go away.

It's the same reason you see guys who actually played in the NBA like Barkley say things like, "LeBron's just as fast and athletic as Jordan, but he's 50 pounds heavier". A quote which by the way I don't agree with, but applies all the same. They don't have the same illusions that you do with videos.

Go watch the 93 Finals and hear them say, "They're putting KJ on Jordan because he can match Jordan's quickness and not be beat as easily".

The same applies to any player you primarily know/remember off of highlight videos.

It's like another poster once said: "There's a video of Wade on youtube that looks like he was shot out of a cannon".

Keep that in mind for ANY player you see in highlight videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9vp1LGD_38

Watch the link above. MJ open court is as fast as lebron and as explosive as westbrook in his prime. MJ's quickness is based on his explosive first step with his unpredictable acceleration and iverson depends on his quick, agile dribbles until his defenders lost their step.

[eliteballer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9vp1LGD_38

Watch the link above. MJ open court is as fast as lebron and as explosive as westbrook in his prime. MJ's quickness is based on his explosive first step with his unpredictable acceleration and iverson depends on his quick, agile dribbles until his defenders lost their step.

That video is sped up. You've gotta be half blind not to see that

It's the perfect example of everything I mentioned in the OP.

[ShawkFactory]

He's was fast as Lebron and as explosive as Westbrook. He didn't have Lebrons size/strength tho so he obviously wasn't quite the fright in transition.

But yea there's a reason he's the GOAT. His athletic ability overall is among the 5 greatest "basketball players" ever. I put that in quotes because it's meant to disclude those who were amazing athletes that just played basketball because of it, but didn't have any real game.

[DonDadda59]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9vp1LGD_38

Watch the link above. MJ open court is as fast as lebron and as explosive as westbrook in his prime. MJ's quickness is based on his explosive first step with his unpredictable acceleration and iverson depends on his quick, agile dribbles until his defenders lost their step.

RIP, OP.


OPP

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

OP might be half retarded (I've heard stories where people with brain disabilities can figure out how to operate and use computers).

Anyway lets help him out here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d96M7y38XKM#t=2m58s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d96M7y38XKM#t=1m15s

Same quality as the videos OP linked, and Jordan still looks cat-quick in his 30's.

[eliteballer]

OP might be half retarded (I've heard stories where people with brain disabilities can figure out how to operate and use computers).

Anyway lets help him out here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d96M7y38XKMt=#2m57s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d96M7y38XKMt=#1m15s

Same quality as the videos OP linked, and Jordan still looks cat-quick in his 30's.

Why don't you learn how to time links properly before calling others retarded

Classic ISHiot.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Why don't you learn how to time links properly before calling others retarded

Classic ISHiot.

Links work fine for me?

Here's another video (digitally remastered) for your pleasure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=555mEvV-61A#t=1m01s

[kennethgriffin]

theres positives and negatives. i agree. oldschool footage is slower

especially the dunk highlights. they have more frames per second in film. they can get smooth slowmotion dunks


this helped push the idea that mike could fly


but in real time jordans hang time wasnt as much like moon gravity as people think it was

[Indian guy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8eIIUERDl8

Ummm, I don't know what we're supposed to learn from this video. It's a horrible angle and tells us nothing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3-to7R2e44

Really? A highlight video from the season where he missed 60+ games due to a broken foot and was far from his usual explosive self? Mind you, he still does look pretty quick in this video, although ironically enough, you posted one of GD's videos, which are clearly sped-up.

So this idea some people have that Jordan was quicker than Iverson and Rose, way faster in the open court than LeBron or more explosive than Westbrook just needs to go away.

In my experience, people who generally say this are those who've actually seen very little of MJ and are just caught up in the 'legend'. I don't think their opinion is based on anything tangible. But it's OK! MJ can still have an argument for GOAT perimeter athlete without possessing AI/Rose's quickness, LeBron's open court speed or Westbrook's explosiveness. I've never understood why he has to be the best at every single athletic attribute. He just had the best combination of all those things in that 6'6, 195-215 lb package.

[ShawkFactory]

theres positives and negatives. i agree. oldschool footage is slower

especially the dunk highlights. they have more frames per second in film. they can get smooth slowmotion dunks


this helped push the idea that mike could fly


but in real time jordans hang time wasnt as much like moon gravity as people think it was

You know this because you had front court tix for Bulls games back then?

[Spurs m8]

...and really any other player you only know or remember by highlights.

Highlight videos or even certain game videos can have messed up speeds and framerates. We've all seen it.

THIS is what Jordan looks like in real time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8eIIUERDl8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3-to7R2e44

So this idea some people have that Jordan was quicker than Iverson and Rose, way faster in the open court than LeBron or more explosive than Westbrook just needs to go away.

It's the same reason you see guys who actually played in the NBA like Barkley say things like, "LeBron's just as fast and athletic as Jordan, but he's 50 pounds heavier". A quote which by the way I don't agree with, but applies all the same. They don't have the same illusions that you do with videos.

Go watch the 93 Finals and hear them say, "They're putting KJ on Jordan because he can match Jordan's quickness and not be beat as easily".

The same applies to any player you primarily know/remember off of highlight videos.

It's like another poster once said: "There's a video of Wade on youtube that looks like he was shot out of a cannon".

Keep that in mind for ANY player you see in highlight videos.

Yeah, except people from the 90s actually generally agree he's the best, and its the ****tards who live off highlights and stories that don't know what the **** they're talking about.

Its funny too people can't get past being a homer and just admit Jordan was better.
I mean, in no world is Kobe better, so turn take the ****head glasses off and see shit for how it really is....i don't sit here saying TD > MJ...coz im not a ****ing idiot

[Spurs m8]

Also OP - tells us not to go off highlights, proceeds to use highlights to try and prove a point LMFAO

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

although ironically enough, you posted one of GD's videos, which are clearly sped-up.

Are they really? I watch a lot his recent highlights and they all look the same speed to me... Could be the new 60fps feature on Youtube.

[sportjames23]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9vp1LGD_38

Watch the link above. MJ open court is as fast as lebron and as explosive as westbrook in his prime. MJ's quickness is based on his explosive first step with his unpredictable acceleration and iverson depends on his quick, agile dribbles until his defenders lost their step.

Body-bagged.


OP, you come at the (real) king, you best not miss.