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Re: Bill Russell is the true 2nd GOAT behind Kareem. not MJ
Originally Posted by ShawkFactory
There are 3 people who you can make an argument for over MJ (Wilt, Russell, Kareem).
Doesn’t mean the argument is a particulrly strong one
kareem and russell are a strong one
wilt didn't win enough
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Le11th
Re: Bill Russell is the true 2nd GOAT behind Kareem. not MJ
Originally Posted by kennethgriffen
kareem and russell are a strong one
wilt didn't win enough
But Kareem only really won (in the NBA) with top 5-15 all time great help as well.
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Re: Bill Russell is the true 2nd GOAT behind Kareem. not MJ
Originally Posted by superduper
But Kareem only really won (in the NBA) with top 5-15 all time great help as well.
the only way to win in the 80's was with some all time great help
there was like 4 golden state warriors running around at the time
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Local High School Star
Re: Bill Russell is the true 2nd GOAT behind Kareem. not MJ
Originally Posted by kennethgriffen
kareem and russell are a strong one
wilt didn't win enough
A person who recognizes Wilt's greatness for what it was would say:
"Yeah Russell and Kareem weren't dominant enough"
And they'd be right.
A "greatest of all time" criteria is 100% opinion. People of course get really vested in these opinions and it takes on a part of their personality so they fight with others as if their opinion is a fact but let's be serious for a second - we are discussing opinions here. Supported by facts of course, but opinions nonetheless.
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Banned
Re: Bill Russell is the true 2nd GOAT behind Kareem. not MJ
Jordan is the GOAT. Never lost with HCA and never was down 3-2 in a series with HCA and never played with anyone who won league or finals mvp for a season either.
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Very good NBA starter
Re: Bill Russell is the true 2nd GOAT behind Kareem. not MJ
[B]I used to underrate Russel cause he wasnt a great offensive player but his defense was amazing i
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GOAT
Re: Bill Russell is the true 2nd GOAT behind Kareem. not MJ
3ball, Kenny's acting up again. Put him back in his cage, pls.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Bill Russell is the true 2nd GOAT behind Kareem. not MJ
Kareem had the most help of anyone in history
Literally
Name a player who had more.. I'll wait
And he was only the man for half his rings, if that.. At least 2 rings he was the 3rd or 4th best player
A great, long career, but lacked MJ's peak dominance, and wasn't dominant at all (i.e. 16' love'esque) for a few of his rings.
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