Reggie Miller > Allen Iverson

[Lebron23]

Iverson was the better player.

[pauk]

[dunksby]

3ball is the jlauber of Jordan stans.

[Shih508]

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Reggie led his team to the Finals as a #1 option and alpha leader of his team just like Iverson did.

Except Reggie's offense fit with any teammates and in any offensive system, so he wasn't a 1-trick pony like Iverson... Reggie led his team to championship contention in 1998 too, against Jordan's Bulls, and had a much longer record of playoff success as his team's #1 option than Iverson ever had.

And Reggie has better stats - his WS/48 is 0.176.. much higher than Iverson's 0.126... when the gap is that big, it means something.

Between 1990 and 2001 (12 seasons), Reggie Miller's offensive win share (OWS) was ranged from 8.0 to 12.0, and was always among the league leaders... Iverson only has 3 seasons where his OWS was higher than 6.0 - it's because of his embarrassing inefficiency - Iverson's has a career 51% TS and 105 ORtg to Miller's 61% and 121 ORtg.

Back to the stats - Reggie's prior-informed RAPM in 1998 has him 12th in the league at 4.90, compared to Iverson's 139th and 0.08.... http://ascreamingcomesacrossthecourt...ormed.html?m=1

And his total RAPM scores for 1997-2014 has Reggie Miller in 101st place among all players and Iverson is at 180th... https://sites.google.com/site/rapmstats/97-14-rapm-2

That's why he was able to make the Finals in 2000... Reggie averaged 24 PPG heads-up with Kobe, and held Kobe to 19 PPG on 36% shooting... Whereas Kobe got 25 PPG on 41% in the 2001 Finals against Iverson and McKie, who were both big size mismatches for him.

If both guys play on different teams for 20 years, Reggie has the greater chance of leading a team to a championship - he proved it.
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Ask the coach who has coached both players, Larry Brown. I bet his answer would be different from yours

[VIP2000]

You serious with this post?

Stackhouse played with AI for one full season during Iverson's rookie year, put up 20 on 40%..

Hughes played with AI during Hughes rookie year in 99, which was a lock out season and Hughes came off the bench. He was gone the next year..

Keith Van Horn? Lol played with the 76ers in 04 for a season.


Coleman was 34 when he joined the 76ers and was never anything that special even in his prime, what's AI supposed to do with an ancient Derrick Coleman..

Like I said, none of those guys panned out. You forgot to mention Glenn Robinson when he was still a capable scorer. It's a Catch-22. He can't co-exist with other big-time scorers, so the best 76ers team he was a part of was the one that was filled with mainly defensive players. And then his fanboys complain that he never had enough help on the offensive end.

[Kungfro]

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Reggie led his team to the Finals as a #1 option and alpha leader of his team just like Iverson did.

Except Reggie's offense fit with any teammates and in any offensive system, so he wasn't a 1-trick pony like Iverson... Reggie led his team to championship contention in 1998 too, against Jordan's Bulls, and had a much longer record of playoff success as his team's #1 option than Iverson ever had.

And Reggie has better stats - his WS/48 is 0.176.. much higher than Iverson's 0.126... when the gap is that big, it means something.

Between 1990 and 2001 (12 seasons), Reggie Miller's offensive win share (OWS) was ranged from 8.0 to 12.0, and was always among the league leaders... Iverson only has 3 seasons where his OWS was higher than 6.0 - it's because of his embarrassing inefficiency - Iverson's has a career 51% TS and 105 ORtg to Miller's 61% and 121 ORtg.

Back to the stats - Reggie's prior-informed RAPM in 1998 has him 12th in the league at 4.90, compared to Iverson's 139th and 0.08.... http://ascreamingcomesacrossthecourt...ormed.html?m=1

And his total RAPM scores for 1997-2014 has Reggie Miller in 101st place among all players and Iverson is at 180th... https://sites.google.com/site/rapmstats/97-14-rapm-2

That's why he was able to make the Finals in 2000... Reggie averaged 24 PPG heads-up with Kobe, and held Kobe to 19 PPG on 36% shooting... Whereas Kobe got 25 PPG on 41% in the 2001 Finals against Iverson and McKie, who were both big size mismatches for him.

If both guys play on different teams for 20 years, Reggie has the greater chance of leading a team to a championship - he proved it.
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By not leading his team to a championship?

[knicksman]

But that 76er squad that went to the finals was a contender. They just had the misfortune of playing Shaq at his peak.

No. Just like every other east team except for miami that went into the finals. Detroit was just lucky that kobe wants the finals MVP so bad.

[knicksman]

Like I said, none of those guys panned out. You forgot to mention Glenn Robinson when he was still a capable scorer. It's a Catch-22. He can't co-exist with other big-time scorers, so the best 76ers team he was a part of was the one that was filled with mainly defensive players. And then his fanboys complain that he never had enough help on the offensive end.

this. The guy was being called a cancer but fanboys just think its teammates.

[Angel Face]

He is more efficient and more clutch, but AI was the better player.

[Moonbeam]

Yeah, I think Reggie's better, too. He's a far superior offensive weapon, in my view, and despite the steals, Iverson wasn't that good of a defender. I admire the heck out of AI for the abuse he put his body through driving to the hole like he did, and despite his issues with efficiency, his teammates DID benefit from his presence on the court in Philadelphia, but I think Miller had a higher impact.

[game3524]

Iverson and by a decent margin.

He is a better shot-creater, playmaker and more impactful defender. The only edge Reggie has is shooting and off-ball movement and AI was not that far behind in the latter

And at the notion that the way AI played wasn't conductive to winning a championship, it goes to show who actually watched AI play during the LB era and who is reading the boxscores.

[DetroitPistonFan]

Allen Iverson was one of the greatest scorers of all time who was also a MVP and Eastern Conference Champion > Reggie Mililer

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Cmon.....Reggie would be Korver level at best in todays league. AI would be the best SG

[knicksman]

if you want to be entertained, AI but give me miller if I need to win. multiple 50+ win teams compared to 1 for AI.

[3ball]

go ahead and take iverson over miller, and lose lose lose lose lose lose lose lose lose

iverson's style is a losing style of play.. he'd win a 1-on-1 contest though, but not NBA basketball games.