Do ppl still think peak Reggie Miller, Ray Allen and Nash are on Currys level?

[PsychoBe]

if steph was shooting a low volume like Nash he wouldve easily had 50/40/90s
Steph is a better overall player than all 3

no he wouldn't. i don't think you understand how great of an all-around shooter you have to be to sustain those numbers for an entire season. if curry took 11-12 shots per game (8 jump shots) for an entire season he probably wouldn't remotely come close.

and as for the "better player" that remains to be seen. reggie, nash, and ray have all been past the second round and have done it multiple times.

[iamgine]

Nash was better.

[plowking]

To be fair to someone like Ray...he was pretty much reaching the end of his prime when the rules changed that made it easier for guards. Steph has had the advantage of this his entire career. Ray was 30 when the rules changed. Look what he did in his prime on the Bucks...basically averaged 43% from 3pt land taking 6.5 or so 3pters a game vs tougher defense than Steph is facing.

Who in the world prior to the rule change is stopping Curry? He'd probably have an even bigger field day and shoot even more 3's.

[JohnFreeman]

Prime Ray Allen doe

[PsychoBe]

Who in the world prior to the rule change is stopping Curry? He'd probably have an even bigger field day and shoot even more 3's.

no he wouldn't

the game wasn't played the same, plain and simple. he'd work a lot more on his mid-range game and would probably have to play a lot more off the ball too depending on the team he's on.

[Reggie43]

Better and more skilled player? I'd go with Steve Nash.

[Kblaze8855]

If all of these guys are in their prime in the same league....the only one you couldnt possibly trade for any of the others is Reggie. You call and offer peak Ray for Peak Nash...the team with Nash probably says no. But they take the call. They listen.

Im not sure the team with Nash and Steph take Reggie srious unless they have a really great backup point. Like...too good to bench. Im talking Terrell Brandon when he was behind Mark Price.

Maybe a team with prime Ray listen to prime Reggie...but they wouldnt do it in the end.

Reggie was ranked behind worse players than Steph Curry in his day.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

If all of these guys are in their prime in the same league....the only one you couldnt possibly trade for any of the others is Reggie. You call and offer peak Ray for Peak Nash...the team with Nash probably says no. But they take the call. They listen.

Im not sure the team with Nash and Steph take Reggie srious unless they have a really great backup point. Like...too good to bench. Im talking Terrell Brandon when he was behind Mark Price.

Maybe a team with prime Ray listen to prime Reggie...but they wouldnt do it in the end.

Reggie was ranked behind worse players than Steph Curry in his day.

How would u rank the 4

[Reggie43]

If all of these guys are in their prime in the same league....the only one you couldnt possibly trade for any of the others is Reggie. You call and offer peak Ray for Peak Nash...the team with Nash probably says no. But they take the call. They listen.

Im not sure the team with Nash and Steph take Reggie srious unless they have a really great backup point. Like...too good to bench. Im talking Terrell Brandon when he was behind Mark Price.

Maybe a team with prime Ray listen to prime Reggie...but they wouldnt do it in the end.

Reggie was ranked behind worse players than Steph Curry in his day.

Would they consider the trade if they saw how an old Reggie beat/outperformed a prime Ray in the playoffs? Who knows what Miller would have done to him if they battled prime for prime.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Oh please, the only one plays below-average defense in this bunch is Steve Nash.

If you say so. Do you think steals/blocks = good defense? Because if so that makes sense for your assessment curry. Seriously it's not a knock on the guy to be equal to prime Ray and Nash. They were INSANE. He's definitely better than Reggie, but I'd still want Reggie taking my last shot.

There's still no mention on here about his TOs.

[tontoz]

Strange comparison since they played different positions. Reggie and Ray were both 2s who scored more off the ball. They both averaged 18-19 for their careers with Reggie having better scoring efficiency. Reggie shot 3% better inside the arc and got to the foul line more.

Nash was a very efficient scorer but not a go to scorer like Curry. Curry can create his own shot off the dribble better than any of these guys. Nash was the better playmaker though. And he wasn't as bad a defender as people make him out to be. His defensive +/- was pretty much average in his prime.

I think which one you pick depends on what kind of team you have.

[Kblaze8855]

There might be a couple GMs dumb enough to let a 24/2/2 on 46%(28% from 3) series win change their opinions...but not many. Reggie had 2 big games(34 and 41 points) and was 5-18(21 points), 4 of 12(10 points), and 5 of 9(15 points) in the 3 others.

Lets not act like we are talking an epic series. None of those games would be unusual for Ray Allen. Ray topped Reggies career playoff high(that 41) a few times. Hell he did it the next year vs one of the best defenses of that or any era. Reggie dropping 40 past his prime supposed to mean more than Ray dropping 50+ past his prime in the playoffs vs the Bulls? 40 something on the Kings? 76ers? Big games on the Spurs? Absurdly clutch shots as big and in some cases bigger than Reggie ever hit?

There were coach/gms who ranked Reggie behind people many consider role players. You know it...because we have gone over this and ive shown you the quotes and articles.

Reggie just was not as highly regarded as you want to suggest in retrospect.

When multiple HOF coaches think he wasnt the best player on a team that didnt really have any stars im gonna assume they sanction trading prime superstars for him?

[tontoz]

There might be a couple GMs dumb enough to let a 24/2/2 on 46%(28% from 3) series win change their opinions...but not many. Reggie had 2 big games(34 and 41 points) and was 5-18(21 points), 4 of 12(10 points), and 5 of 9(15 points) in the 3 others.

Lets not act like we are talking an epic series. None of those games would be unusual for Ray Allen. Ray topped Reggies career playoff high(that 41) a few times. Hell he did it the next year vs one of the best defenses of that or any era. Reggie dropping 40 past his prime supposed to mean more than Ray dropping 50+ past his prime in the playoffs vs the Bulls? 40 something on the Kings? 76ers? Big games on the Spurs? Absurdly clutch shots as big and in some cases bigger than Reggie ever hit?

There were coach/gms who ranked Reggie behind people many consider role players. You know it...because we have gone over this and ive shown you the quotes and articles.

Reggie just was not as highly regarded as you want to suggest in retrospect.

When multiple HOF coaches think he wasnt the best player on a team that didnt really have any stars im gonna assume they sanction trading prime superstars for him?

IN the playoffs Reggie averaged 20.6 ppg compared to Ray's 16.1, and Reggie also had better efficiency.

In the regular season their 3 point shooting was comparable but Reggie shot 51.6% on 2s compared to 48.5% for Ray.

[Kblaze8855]

Im gonna go on and not factor in time on the Heat and so on when asked about Rays peak.

There are few players whos career numbers tell the real story.

Neither Ray or Reggie are what their career numbers say.

[tontoz]

Im gonna go on and not factor in time on the Heat and so on when asked about Rays peak.

There are few players whos career numbers tell the real story.

Neither Ray or Reggie are what their career numbers say.

What a bunch of nonsense. Reggie actually played a year longer than Ray and he didn't have a couple of stars to carry him, yet still scored with higher efficiency than Ray in the regular season and the playoffs.

You just don't like the numbers because they don't agree with your obvious bias.

Ray never in his entire career had a year as good as Reggie's 3rd season. Reggie scored 24.6 ppg shooting 55.2% from 2 and 41.4% from 3. He also got to the line 7.6 times per game. Ray can't touch that.