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The Future Goat
Re: Is This The Worst Talent Pool In NBA History
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Re: Is This The Worst Talent Pool In NBA History
Weakest the Easts been since the 90s. easts been terribly weak since the bird led Celtics era ended. This is nothing new.
Last edited by G0ATbe; 04-30-2015 at 07:46 PM.
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The Future Goat
Re: Is This The Worst Talent Pool In NBA History
Originally Posted by DonDadda59
... Or at least since the pre-merger 70s?
I was thinking about it the past few games. There's a lot of teams that are made up exclusively of role players, especially in the East.
Boston- No marquee players. A guy coming off the bench is arguably their star.
Milwaukee- Bunch of scrappy defenders but no one even close to all star level.
Brooklyn- faded former stars.
Hawks- Do you consider Korver, Millsap stars?
It's no wonder the NBA, which traditionally relies on star power for marketing, decided to go with their 'new hero ball' campaign. Good luck convincing people to tune in to watch Kyle Korver battle Brook Lopez or a faded Paul Pierce clown DeMar DeRozan.
No wonder way past prime former star players are still doing work. Can you point to another point in NBA History where the talent pool was so thin?
The average player player in the early to mid 2000s were all a bunch of austin rivers. look at the drafts 2000 to 2007 god awful.
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Bernie 2020
Re: Is This The Worst Talent Pool In NBA History
Steph Curry
Anthony Davis
Lebron James
Kevin Durant
Russell Westbrook
Kawhi Leonard
Paul George
Klay Thompson
John Wall
Kyrie Irving
Kevin Love
Al Horford
Jimmy Butler
Chris Bosh
Al Jefferson
James Harden
Dwight Howard
Blake Griffin
Chris Paul
Damien Lillard
Lamarcus Aldridge
Marc Gasol
Zach Randolph
Tim Duncan (old man killing it)
Monta Ellis
Kobe Bryant
Demarcus Cousins
And that is just counting the best of the best, I still consider a lot of other guys I didn't mention as stars (Noah, Gasol, Millsap, etc.)
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Re: Is This The Worst Talent Pool In NBA History
Originally Posted by TripleA
Mid 2000s were the worst
Wuuuuuut
Kobe
Shaq
Wade
Kg
Nash
Dirk
Duncan
LBJ
Melo
Iverson
Tmac
Vince carter
Jason Kidd
Billups
Just to name a few
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The Future Goat
Re: Is This The Worst Talent Pool In NBA History
Originally Posted by christian1923
Wuuuuuut
Kobe
Shaq
Wade
Kg
Nash
Dirk
Duncan
LBJ
Melo
Iverson
Tmac
Vince carter
Jason Kidd
Billups
Just to name a few
Nice Chauncey billups top 5 point guard back then
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Re: Is This The Worst Talent Pool In NBA History
Originally Posted by TripleA
Mid 2000s were the worst
Really? Thought that was a very good time for talent that was spread out throughout the league. Not the best, but definitely not as thin as it is now.
I think the NBA right now is going through a transition period where established stars are on their way out (even though guys like Duncan, Pierce don't seem to want to leave) and that's being coupled with some rampant injuries to current stars. Also doesn't help with certain teams hoarding all the talent in some cases.
So now you have playoff teams with no marquee/star talent. Teams made up of literally all role players. I don't think I can point to any point in NBA History besides another transition period in the 70s during/before the merger where the league was so starved for star power.
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Re: Is This The Worst Talent Pool In NBA History
Originally Posted by Bosnian Sajo
Steph Curry
Anthony Davis
Lebron James
Kevin Durant
Russell Westbrook
Kawhi Leonard
Paul George
Klay Thompson
John Wall
Kyrie Irving
Kevin Love
Al Horford
Jimmy Butler
Chris Bosh
Al Jefferson
James Harden
Dwight Howard
Blake Griffin
Chris Paul
Damien Lillard
Lamarcus Aldridge
Marc Gasol
Zach Randolph
Tim Duncan (old man killing it)
Monta Ellis
Kobe Bryant
Demarcus Cousins
And that is just counting the best of the best, I still consider a lot of other guys I didn't mention as stars (Noah, Gasol, Millsap, etc.)
A lot of the guys you named are injured and not even active right now. How many of those names are from the East and were significant contributors this past season? LeBron and Kyrie who are on the same team... and?
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NBA Legend
Re: Is This The Worst Talent Pool In NBA History
Originally Posted by Bosnian Sajo
Steph Curry
Anthony Davis
Lebron James
Kevin Durant
Russell Westbrook
Kawhi Leonard
Paul George
Klay Thompson
John Wall
Kyrie Irving
Kevin Love
Al Horford
Jimmy Butler
Chris Bosh
Al Jefferson
James Harden
Dwight Howard
Blake Griffin
Chris Paul
Damien Lillard
Lamarcus Aldridge
Marc Gasol
Zach Randolph
Tim Duncan (old man killing it)
Monta Ellis
Kobe Bryant
Demarcus Cousins
And that is just counting the best of the best, I still consider a lot of other guys I didn't mention as stars (Noah, Gasol, Millsap, etc.)
scrubs.
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The Future Goat
Re: Is This The Worst Talent Pool In NBA History
Originally Posted by DonDadda59
A lot of the guys you named are injured and not even active right now. How many of those names are from the East and were significant contributors this past season? LeBron and Kyrie who are on the same team... and?
I think this seasons so bad because so many major players got injuries
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Re: Is This The Worst Talent Pool In NBA History
Originally Posted by TripleA
I think this seasons so bad because so many major players got injuries
Yeah, definitely. I've brought up injuries as a reason several times here. Some guy included Kobe in his list above. Dude played on one leg and couldn't shoot above 38% on a lottery team this season. He's clearly not a marquee player this year, just a name. Neither was Paul George or Bosh/Wade for huge stretches. Durant obviously.
The Eastern squads this season were mostly either made up of all role players or at the bottom, were glorified D-League squads (Knicks ). All the stars are on one team in Cleveland. And even then, Love is done now.
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Re: Is This The Worst Talent Pool In NBA History
Originally Posted by TripleA
Mid 2000s were the worst
Hell no. Arenas's Wizards, Lebron's OG Cavs, Dwight's Magic, Steve Nash's Suns, Shaq and Wade's Heat and Kobe/Gasol's Lakers would mop up the floor with Most of today's shitty teams, especially if they played against today's eastern conference teams.
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Local High School Star
Re: Is This The Worst Talent Pool In NBA History
I would say the early 00's were the worst, right after Jordan retired for the second time. There were superstars like AI, Kobe, KG Shaq, Duncan, T-Mac, Vince Carter, but most of them were surrounded with awful supporting casts. Heck, when Jordan came back for the Wizards, his supporting cast was God-awful. And that was the era where a lot of upcoming stars like Grant Hill, Penny, and McDyess got injuries where they were never the same after.
I mean, a Boston Celtics team featuring Paul Pierce, Antoine Walker, and a bunch of scrubs made the ECF at one point.
Last edited by VIP2000; 04-30-2015 at 08:32 PM.
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Re: Is This The Worst Talent Pool In NBA History
Originally Posted by VIP2000
I would say the early 00's were the worst, right after Jordan retired for the second time. There were superstars like AI, Kobe, KG Shaq, Duncan, T-Mac, Vince Carter, but most of them were surrounded with awful supporting casts. And that was the era where a lot of upcoming stars like Grant Hill, Penny, and McDyess got injuries where they were never the same after.
I mean, a Boston Celtics team featuring Paul Pierce, Antoine Walker, and a bunch of scrubs made the ECF at one point.
That was a pretty rough era, I'll give you that. But Boston had Pierce who was a bonafide star talent. Who does Boston have now anywhere remotely close to that level? I think the talent was spread out more too. Most teams that made the playoffs had at least one real franchise player.
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