Losing with home court advantage (top 12 players of all time)

[TheBigVeto]

This is a really cool and interesting stat. Damn Bird and Duncan, .

To be fair to them, they also had to deal with David Stern. He hated them. So home court advantage didn't really mean anything. They were playing 5 vs 9.

[jzek]

Only the 657,258,258 reason why MJ is the unanimous GOAT.

[Young X]

Jordan's Bulls: 24-0 with homecourt and 5 series won without homecourt

That's my GOAT

[Magic 32]

To be fair to them, they also had to deal with David Stern. He hated them. So home court advantage didn't really mean anything. They were playing 5 vs 9.

Yes, David Stern is the reason Bird was swept by the Bucks in 83.

[Droid101]

Jordan's Bulls: 24-0 with homecourt and 5 series won without homecourt

That's my GOAT

Also, if I'm not mistaken, never lost a game in the first round on his six championship runs.

[Marchesk]

the reason nobody hates on tim duncan is because nobody cares about tim duncan



nobody cares.


hes a nobody. never was important to basketball. flew under the radar his whole career. had no fans. no pressure. no impact

not legendary.

good team mate. great player... but not on the level of a shaq, hakeem, kobe, or even lebron

And yet we're all taking Duncan over Kobe to start our franchise with.

[kennethgriffin]

And yet we're all taking Duncan over Kobe to start our franchise with.

i would to

but that doesnt make him the better player. just a more rare position to be great at

big men have to be drafted first in a fantasy all time draft because the gap between a legendary big and the average big is much greater than the gap between a legendary guard and the average guard



how many centers can put up 20ppg... hardly any

how many guards can put up 20ppg... millions


because guards are generally more skilled and tallented. they grew up learning how to play the game

while bigs are mostly made up of guys who didn't give a sh*t about basketball and were pushed into it to make a living



if i take kobe and have to wait till round 2 to take a center after 29 other teams draft. i'm gonna have to select a guy like neil johnston, jack sikma, or clyde lovelette


but if i take shaq, duncan, hakeem, kareem wilt or russell

then by round 2 i'l still have a guy like earl monroe or clyde drexler to select




and a team of drexler/kareem will beat kobe/sikma


so it has nothing to do with duncan being better. you select a big because theyre not as great as guards for the most part

[rmt]

and a team of drexler/kareem will beat kobe/sikma

so it has nothing to do with duncan being better. you select a big because theyre not as great as guards for the most part

Huh?

Maybe it's because bigs impact the game more than guards. That's why the top 20 is dominated by bigs over the other 3 positions.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

12 seems like an arbitrary number. I'm guess you have LeBron at 12 and you wanted to include him?

Random, but interesting stat.

[Magic 32]

12 seems like an arbitrary number. I'm guess you have LeBron at 12 and you wanted to include him?

Random, but interesting stat.

Just couldn't decide who was number 13, 14 and 15 (Moses, West, Dr. J, Baylor, Dirk.......)

And for the record.

1. MJ (greatest player)
2. Russell (greatest winner)
3. Wilt (greatest individual force)
4. Kareem (greatest longevity)
5. Magic (greatest playermaker)
6. Bird (greatest mind)

7. Kobe (greatest player part 2)
8. Duncan (greatest winner part 2)
9. Shaq (greatest individual force part 2)
10 Hakeem (greatest longevity part 2)
11. Lebron (greatest playermaker part 2)
12. Oscar (greatest mind part 2)

One way of doing it anyway.

[KG215]

you select a big because theyre not as great as guards for the most part

You're a special kind of stupid.

...

[zoom17]

Bird = 7 (1980, 1982, 1983, 1985, 1988, 1990, 1991)

Duncan = 6 (2001, 2004, 2006, 2009, 2011, 2012)

Shaq = 5 (1994, 1995, 2004, 2005, 2010)

Wilt = 5 (1961, 1966, 1968, 1969, 1973)

Kareem = 4 (1973, 1974, 1977, 1981)

Oscar = 4 (1962, 1965, 1973, 1974)

Lebron = 3 (2009, 2010, 2011)

Magic = 3 (1981, 1990, 1996)

Hakeem = 2 (1985, 1987)

Kobe = 2 (2004, 2011)

Russell = 1 (1958)

MJ = 0

dang bird

[zoom17]

And then they say Larry Bird is better than LeBron, LMFAO.

Jordan>Lebron>Bird>>>>>>>Kobe

THis is no disrespect to bird, he was a great player, but this shows it

fixed

[jlip]

Russell = 1 (1958)

Russell didn't lose that series. He got injured and couldn't finish it. He missed 2 1/2 games of a 6 game series.

[Magic 32]

Russell didn't lose that series. He got injured and couldn't finish it. He missed 2 1/2 games of a 6 game series.

Didn't know that

Still going to keep as it is, just because of what he said about Wilt not playing at the end of game 7