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Old 12-22-2014, 12:09 PM   #346
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Homeland had a great bounce back season after a terrible last season. But man, that was one of the worst season finales I've ever seen.

Seriously. What the shit was that... no scene at all with Khan and Carrie after he stops her from shooting Haqqani? So Khan is just completely out of the picture now...? No Pakistan scenes at all??

Huge letdown from what has been a really good season.
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Old 12-22-2014, 12:51 PM   #347
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I was more confused than disappointed. But a lot of the same feelings. Everyone comes home and has drinks I guess. Setting up the mother is just weird at this stage. Sort of the way they just dropped the story of the big asset they turned last year, it almost feels like they were beginning to just drop Haqani, although I'm sure they won't, it just felt that way.

It was still a great season. It just was an example of how this show does so well with the high tension stuff, and then when it takes it's breath like this, it just doesn't always work well.
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Old 12-22-2014, 12:58 PM   #348
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Agreed. Honestly, it could have been the opener for season 2, and episode 11 could have been the finale. That ending with Dar Adal riding with Haqqani would have been a great season finale scene.

I think season finales should be where action really goes down. I still thought it was a good episode, although a bit boring... just not a good ep to use as a season finale

Makes such little sense. There was absolutely no buildup to "where's Carrie's mom?" This storyline came out of absolutely nowhere. It would be one thing if this was some kind of mystery. Other recent shows like Breaking Bad, Boardwalk Empire, Game of Thrones, Sons of Anarchy have actually done some buildup of some mysterious past for its characters that made viewers interested. I figured maybe Carrie's mom died a while ago. Just bad.
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Old 12-22-2014, 01:10 PM   #349
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felt like that episode could have just been the season premiere for the next season

and episode 11 was the finale
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Old 12-22-2014, 01:24 PM   #350
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To be fair to the Carrie's mother line, it's definitely possible that they threw it together after the actor who played her father died. They may have had more shit lined up for him, and then had to create something to maintain the civilian drama, and to maintain the general story arc that had already considered.
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Old 12-22-2014, 01:31 PM   #351
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To be fair to the Carrie's mother line, it's definitely possible that they threw it together after the actor who played her father died. They may have had more shit lined up for him, and then had to create something to maintain the civilian drama, and to maintain the general story arc that had already considered.

Damn. Didn't realize he really died.

With that said, why did they have basically a whole episode based on civilian drama?
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Old 12-22-2014, 06:24 PM   #352
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Horrible ending to a great season
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Old 12-23-2014, 01:36 AM   #353
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Horrible ending to a great season

Word. A few shows had weak finales, Sons of Anarchy comes to mind. Both shows episode before the finale should've been the finale or at least had the same feel to it.
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Old 12-23-2014, 01:37 AM   #354
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felt like that episode could have just been the season premiere for the next season

and episode 11 was the finale

Just saw this, yup.
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Old 12-23-2014, 02:20 AM   #355
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Makes such little sense. There was absolutely no buildup to "where's Carrie's mom?" This storyline came out of absolutely nowhere. It would be one thing if this was some kind of mystery. Other recent shows like Breaking Bad, Boardwalk Empire, Game of Thrones, Sons of Anarchy have actually done some buildup of some mysterious past for its characters that made viewers interested. I figured maybe Carrie's mom died a while ago. Just bad.
Well Carrie's mom gave us some insight as to why Carrie is the way she is and some parallels between Carrie's relationship life and her mom's relationship life. I feel like it is a relevant story, but just not to the current plot. We didn't see any ISI or Haqqani in the final ep, and that's disappointing. The Carrie's mom storyline would have fit better next season, as well as all the Quinn beta-ness
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Old 12-23-2014, 02:21 AM   #356
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felt like that episode could have just been the season premiere for the next season

and episode 11 was the finale
In my mind, it is. I don't care what the record books say. Kings are the 02 NBA champs, and the Homeland season 5 premiere leaked early
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Old 12-23-2014, 02:34 AM   #357
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felt like that episode could have just been the season premiere for the next season

and episode 11 was the finale

Word.

They switched it up to last three season finales, yet still drove how the main point, to keep you guessing what's gonna happen next.

Last three season finales hit you over the head. This was definitely less shocking, but still make you wanna watch season 5.
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Old 12-23-2014, 03:51 PM   #358
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Well Carrie's mom gave us some insight as to why Carrie is the way she is and some parallels between Carrie's relationship life and her mom's relationship life. I feel like it is a relevant story, but just not to the current plot. We didn't see any ISI or Haqqani in the final ep, and that's disappointing. The Carrie's mom storyline would have fit better next season, as well as all the Quinn beta-ness

We already knew Carrie's dad was bipolar, which is why she is too. This is completely different from other shows where they touch upon a mysterious past from the beginning of the series, which makes us wonder what exactly happened in their past going forward. There really was nothing of that sort in this show. They just threw it in there out of nowhere, when no one seemed to care about her past in the first place.
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Old 12-27-2014, 06:01 PM   #359
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I also wonder how the government of Pakistan is viewing this season.
I have my answer

Pakistani officials furious over ‘Homeland’
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Pakistani officials are furious with Showtime after watching the fourth season of its hit show “Homeland,” which they say portrays their country as an ugly, ignorant, terror-plagued “hellhole.”
The diplomats took copious notes of every slight while binge-watching all 12 episodes — including the lack of greenery in the depiction of the nation’s capital, Islamabad.
They complained directly to producers of the Emmy-winning drama, but their gripes fell on deaf ears, Pakistani sources said.
“Maligning a country that has been a close partner and ally of the US . . . is a disservice not only to the security interests of the US but also to the people of the US,” Pakistan Embassy spokesman Nadeem Hotiana told The Post.
One of their beefs is that the show — which stars Danes as CIA Agent Carrie Mathison on assignment in Pakistan — trashed a diplomat’s image of the capital as a bucolic oasis.
“Islamabad is a quiet, picturesque city with beautiful mountains and lush greenery,” one source said. “In ‘Homeland,’ it’s portrayed as a grimy hellhole and war zone where shootouts and bombs go off with dead bodies scattered around. Nothing is further from the truth.”
The cable show’s “Islamabad” scenes were actually filmed in Cape Town, South Africa.
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Old 12-28-2014, 05:34 PM   #360
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Finale was lame, last season still had some pretty glaring WTF moments in terms of just not making any sense, I'm not buying the CIA feeling that there are so many bigger fish to fry out there than Haqqani after he shot up their Embassy and killed 30+ people that they should make a deal with him, still makes no sense that Haqqani wouldn't have killed Lockhart, was part of the deal the CIA recovering their list of assets or are they just going to let Haqqani go wild with that? Does anyone else think a hardline terrorist like Haqqani would rather die than work with the CIA?

Too much not adding up right now for me to say it was a great season, but it definitely had it's moments and will have my attention again next year.

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