Kareem - MJ, Battle of The Titan, who's the legitimate GOAT

[Deuce Bigalow]

"In terms of greatness, MJ has to take a backseat to The Stilt"
-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

[VIntageNOvel]

Yes.

Btw, losing in the finals is not a silver, it's not even bronze. It's a disgrace.

so bran is 2 time champion, and 2 time disgrace?

[MichaelCorleone]

"In terms of greatness, MJ has to take a backseat to The Stilt"
-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Kareem Abdul-Beta is bitter of MJ.

[Keno]

for now jordan. in 2018 when lebron has 8 mvps, 7 rings, 7 finals mvp, he will be the greatest of all time.

[Lamar Odumbb]

I would always take the big man, including Shaq over Jordan and Kobe and Kareem over Jordan and Kobe. I think Lebron is the only non big man I might pick ahead of Kareem or Shaq but it would be 50/50.


Take Jordan away from Bulls and they go from like 60 wins to 55 wins.

Take Shaq away from Lakers and they go from 60 wins to 40 wins.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

If Lakers has only Prime peak SHaq as the only player on the roster and 1st peat Bulls has the same minus only Pippen and Jordan. If Lakers vs Bulls happen. Lakers won
4-0.. Prime Shaq>>Pippen+Bulls Roster.

If that was true then this question should be with is the 2nd best player of all time since Shaq would clearly be the greatest.

[MichaelCorleone]

so bran is 2 time champion, and 2 time disgrace?

Yes. At least Lebron won his rings as the man, Kareem rode other stars (1 rookie) to his rings.

[fpliii]

IMO he's not better than MJ but Kareem in his three Finals during his prime:

71 Finals - 27.0/18.5/2.8 (blocks weren't officially recorded) on .605 shooting
74 Finals - 32.6/12.1/5.4 with 2.1 blocks on .524 shooting
80 Finals - 33.4/13.6/3.2 with 4.6 blocks on .549 shooting

Beta?

[MichaelCorleone]

Beta?

Beta.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Pretty sure McGrady, Iverson, Ray Allen, Vince Carter, Reggie Miller all could've at some point won at least a couple of rings with a motivated, PJ coached Shaquille O'Neal from 2000 - 2004. Possibly not 3 in a row, but at least a couple.

[1987_Lakers]

Beta.

This guy is obviously trolling, stop feeding him.

[fpliii]

Beta.

Homie c'mon. You can say he was carried in 82 and 87, and definitely 88, but the three Finals I mentioned before were unquestionably beast. Of his other Finals, he was done in 89, wasn't great in 84, and was outplayed in 83, but his prime ended in 81.

Dude, name me a player with three better Finals lines than those.

[MichaelCorleone]

Homie c'mon. You can say he was carried in 82 and 87, and definitely 88, but the three Finals I mentioned before were unquestionably beast. Of his other Finals, he was done in 89, wasn't great in 84, and was outplayed in 83, but his prime ended in 81.

Dude, name me a player with three better Finals lines than those.

2 FMVPs out of 6 rings. Don't care what stats he put up.

[moe94]

Homie c'mon. You can say he was carried in 82 and 87, and definitely 88, but the three Finals I mentioned before were unquestionably beast. Of his other Finals, he was done in 89, wasn't great in 84, and was outplayed in 83, but his prime ended in 81.

Dude, name me a player with three better Finals lines than those.

You might as well be posting to yourself.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Pretty sure McGrady, Iverson, Ray Allen, Vince Carter, Reggie Miller all could've at some point won at least a couple of rings with a motivated, PJ coached Shaquille O'Neal from 2000 - 2004. Possibly not 3 in a row, but at least a couple.

Pretty sure none of those guys play any defense. Nor does it take anything away from Kobe to say he could have been replaced with another HOF guard.