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    Quote Originally Posted by chains5000
    A bit simplistic. So if ONE player gets caught then ALL of them use drugs too?
    Yup! Nevermind that, despite being a former CPOY and College Champion, he really wasn't that good in the NBA and maybe needed steroids to stay competitive! Nevermind that our best boys have been playing in the FIBA WC, Qualifying events, and the Olympics year after year and no testing results about steroid use has ever been found! No, Juan Dixon is the unequivocal proof! Ofcourse...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakas Fan Yo
    [url]All the American NBA fans were claiming that Juan Dixon did not do steroids and it was just a mistake from a GNC supplement. That's because the tests showed he was doing steroids while he was in the NBA and the NBA tested him and NEVER once said anything about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wang4three
    Yay for circumstantial evidence.

    There is no circumstantial evidence. This is now for a fact. FIBA did a thorough investigation of it (over months).

    And Americans still deny that the NBA players have clemency from testing at the Olympics and the FIBA national team competitions, even though in Europe it is always reported that NBA players are allowed to test positive at these events under the NBA's special contract with the FIBA and Olympic committees.

    How much longer are NBA fans going to pretend and live in this delusional fairy tale that NBA players are not doping?

    The fact that Dixon was confirmed to be using anabolic steroids during the time the NBA tested him and that the NBA allowed him to play, never banned him, never reported it, is a red flag.

    In fact US media never had that kind of evidence against MLB or Bonds when they started reporting about it.

    The fact that US media is ignoring this story is also extremely suspicious.

    Maybe the idiots at ESPN need to have emails sent to them about it. Someone will bring it up. American NBA fans actually still believe that NBA players are not doping, which is laughable.
    Last edited by Lakas Fan Yo; 07-19-2010 at 08:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakas Fan Yo
    There is no circumstantial evidence. This is now ofor a fact. FIBA did a thorough investigation of it.

    And Americans still deny that the NBA players have clemency from testing at the Olympics and the FIBA national team competitions, even though in Europe it is always reported that NBA players are allowed to test positive at these events under the NBA's special contract with the FIBA and Olympic committees.

    How much longer are NBA fans going to pretend and living in this delusional fairy tale that NBA players are not doping?

    The fact that Dixon was confirmed to be using anabolic steroids during the time the NBA tested him and that the NBA allowed him to play, never banned him, never reported it, is a red flag.

    In fact US media never had that kind of evidence against MLB or Bonds when they started reported about it.

    The fact that US media is ignoring this story is also extremely suspicious.

    Maybe the idiots at ESPN need to have emails sent to them about it. Someone will bring it up. American NBA fans actually still believe that NBA players are not doping, which is laughable.
    Now that you have made such a clear, lucid argument, i totally agree with you. Everyone, please stop being racist, hating NBA fans who do not see the beauty, and the (drug free) amazing skillfull play that eurobasketball provides. Plus, they have murders, riots, etc. NBA fans don't care enough to murder. Right?

    FIGHT THE POWER LAKAS!

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    Yeah because there was no way for him to mask his urine for the NBA test...

    Its not like bigger better players like Anderson & Lewis werent caught using.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakas Fan Yo
    There is no circumstantial evidence. This is now ofor a fact. FIBA did a thorough investigation of it.

    And Americans still deny that the NBA players have clemency from testing at the Olympics and the FIBA national team competitions, even though in Europe it is always reported that NBA players are allowed to test positive at these events under the NBA's special contract with the FIBA and Olympic committees.

    How much longer are NBA fans going to pretend and living in this delusional fairy tale that NBA players are not doping?

    The fact that Dixon was confirmed to be using anabolic steroids during the time the NBA tested him and that the NBA allowed him to play, never banned him, never reported it, is a red flag.

    In fact US media never had that kind of evidence against MLB or Bonds when they started reported about it.

    The fact that US media is ignoring this story is also extremely suspicious.

    Maybe the idiots at ESPN need to have emails sent to them about it. Someone will bring it up. American NBA fans actually still believe that NBA players are not doping, which is laughable.
    You found ONE guy that did steroid use. Year after year, we have American NBA, college, even highschoolers playing in overseas in Europe.. Yet you've found maybe a handful (if that), that have tested positive for steroid use. What about the other 100+ or so players playing in Europe? I find it highly dubious you can even suggest anything conclusive other than this.

    Talk about delusion? You're just a sensational poster. Every negative fact that comes out you use it as a masquerade to make a blanket statement about the US and its players. I bet if DeMarcus Nelson admitted to being a homosexual you'd claim that all NBA players were gay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chains5000
    A bit simplistic. So if ONE player gets caught then ALL of them use drugs too?
    You are the simplistic one. Dixon was caught ONLY after being tested in Europe. That's the point. The tests show he would have been using in the NBA and using during the time when the NBA tested him and said he was "clean".

    The NBA testing a guy using ANABOLIC STEROIDS and either ignored the test or simply did not do anything about it.

    Are you actually suggesting that such a scenario is just one player? That no other players would use steroids if they knew that even a positive test would be ignored and go unpunished?

    Sure..............

    The NBA suspended 2 players for steroid use and said they were "mistakes" and "over the counter". Yet meanwhile a guy was using anabolic steroids and was tested by the NBA during the time he used them and nothing was ever said about it and he was never suspended.

    Looks like it is incredibly obvious that the NBA occasionally, like once every 2-3 years, gives a name like Lewis, then says it was a mistake from over the counter stuff. And ESPN and NBA fans just believe it.

    While in reality guys are injecting anabolic steroids like Dixon and being allowed to.

    Not a chance in hell that Dixon can get away with that unless he knows he can and unless the NBA is in on it.

    For example, the reason Dixon was tested in Europe was because after he joined the Greek club Aris the managers and trainers of the team supposedly caught him doping. They tested him and sent it off.

    Now are you actually implying that a Greek club can catch a guy doping but an NBA club can't? Are you implying that the European testing facility can detect anabolic steroids but the NBA testing facility cannot?

    BTW, did you know that the facility that does the drug testing for the NBA is OWNED by the NBA and overseen by David Stern?


    Why do so many NBA fans not find that odd?
    Last edited by Lakas Fan Yo; 07-19-2010 at 08:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wang4three
    Yup! Nevermind that, despite being a former CPOY and College Champion, he really wasn't that good in the NBA and maybe needed steroids to stay competitive! Nevermind that our best boys have been playing in the FIBA WC, Qualifying events, and the Olympics year after year and no testing results about steroid use has ever been found! No, Juan Dixon is the unequivocal proof! Ofcourse...
    NBA players are granted immunity in the national team tournaments to positive tests. How many damn times does this have to be explained to some people?

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    You don't need to test him to know he's using steroid, just look at him. He such a muscle freak


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakas Fan Yo
    Yes. The NBA allows anabolic steroid use. ULEB does not.
    What is considered an performance enhancing drug in Europe might not be considered as such in the US, and vice versa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakas Fan Yo
    NBA players are granted immunity in the national team tournaments to positive tests. How many damn times does this have to be explained to some people?
    Regarding drug-testing the athletes, according to USA Basketball spokesperson Craig Miller, "Since 1990, all of our teams have been tested in competition. I believe since around 1988 we have also been subject to out-of-competition testing. We have been 100 percent fully compliant with USADA and WADA."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Go Getter
    Yeah because there was no way for him to mask his urine for the NBA test...

    Its not like bigger better players like Anderson & Lewis werent caught using.

    So the NBA testing can't detect it but the European one can........that's your "argument".

    Right.."no NBA players are doping because the NBA test can't detect the steroids". Right.
    Last edited by Lakas Fan Yo; 07-19-2010 at 09:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakas Fan Yo
    You are the simplistic one. Dixon was caught ONLY after being tested in Europe. That's the point. The tests show he would have been using in the NBA and using during the time when the NBA tested him and said he was "clean".

    The NBA testing a guy using ANABOLIC STEROIDS and either ignored the test or simply did not do anything about it.

    Are you actually suggesting that such a scenario is just one player? That no other players would sue steroids if they knew that even a positive test would be ignored and go unpunished?

    Sure..............

    The NBA suspended 2 players for steroid sue and said they were "mistakes" and "over the counter". Yet meanwhile a guy was using anabolic steroids and was tested by the NBA during the time he used them and nothing was ever said about it and he was never suspended.

    Looks like it is incredibly obvious that the NBA occasionally like once every 2-3 years gives a name like Lewis then says it was a mistake from over the counter stuff. And ESPN and NBA fans just believe it.

    While in reality guys are injecting anabolic steroids like Dixon and being allowed to.

    Not a chance in hell that Dixon can get away with that unless he knows he can and unless the NBA is in on it.

    For example the reason Dixon was tested in Europe was because after he joined the Greek club Aris the managers and trainers of the team supposedly caught him doping. They tested him and sent it off.

    Now are you actually implying that a Greek club can catch a guy doping but an NBA club can't? Are you implying that the European testing facility can detect anabolic steroids but the NBA testing facility cannot?

    BTW, did you know that the facility that does the drug testing for the NBA is OWNED by the NBA and overseen by David Stern?


    Why do so many NBA fans not find that odd?
    Dude, because it's only one person. Tons of players go from NBA to euroleague and back. Having only one example makes your argument very poor. Anything where you have a large sample, finding only one case which proves your point isn't enough.

    I saw the Knicks play euroleague teams in preseason once. They used their backups. Euroleague used starters. Knicks played like games didn't matter. Euorleague teams played hard. knicks won every game.

    Thus, from that sample, that one year, those few games i conclude the Euroleague is garbage, as their starters cannot even remotely play with NBA backups.

    And i have THREE examples, you have one.

    See how great arguing on one tiny example is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wang4three
    You found ONE guy that did steroid use. Year after year, we have American NBA, college, even highschoolers playing in overseas in Europe.. Yet you've found maybe a handful (if that), that have tested positive for steroid use. What about the other 100+ or so players playing in Europe? I find it highly dubious you can even suggest anything conclusive other than this.

    Talk about delusion? You're just a sensational poster. Every negative fact that comes out you use it as a masquerade to make a blanket statement about the US and its players. I bet if DeMarcus Nelson admitted to being a homosexual you'd claim that all NBA players were gay.
    You are the one that is delusional. We now know for a fact that the NBA allowed a positive steroid user to play and never reported it. From the testing facility that is owned and operated by David Stern and the NBA.

    Right..........anyone that finds this odd is "delusional".

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    Default Re: We Now Have Proof That The NBA Allows PED Steroid Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Go Getter
    Yeah because there was no way for him to mask his urine for the NBA test...

    Its not like bigger better players like Anderson & Lewis werent caught using.
    Lewis wasn't caught with steroids, it was a controlled substance that is
    found in GNC stores.

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