Proof Jordan > Kareem and Shaq

[J Shuttlesworth]

If Jordan didn't become a degenerate gambler, he wouldn't have developed the alpha mentality that led to chips

If Jordan didn't become a degenerate gambler, his father would still be alive

If Jordan's father wasn't murdered, he wouldn't have the chip on his shoulder to 3 peat again

/3ball logic

[SouBeachTalents]

Magic Johnson, 2006 Wade, and prime Kobe are all FAR better than Pippen.

you're a retard for not agreeing.

How is Jordan playing with Kobe or Wade when they're all ball dominant SG's?

[navy]

let me explain it slowly to you kindergartners.

bill russell won 8 championships in a row, which is a record.

jordan won 6 of 8 in the 90's with a break in between because he retired over his father's death.

if his father wasn't unluckily murdered, Jordan would've had a chance to break Russell's record of 8 in a row.

does that makes sense, or do you need me to go slower?

Jordan played the 1995 playoffs. No excuses.

[3ball]

He would win less with Kobe and wade..poor fit, diminishing returns. Pippen anchored the bulls defense.. and was best facilitator.

And mj would probably fight with magic after losing fmvp award and being demoted to beta.

he won with less than kareem and shaq ever did, which makes him better.

for all the talk about big men being so dominant, they all sure needed a hell of a lot more talent to win their rings than Jordan did.

i mean, just thinking about a Jordan and Magic Johnson playing together, or Jordan and 2006 wade or prime Kobe........ it's amazing to think how insane his team would have been.

oh well, i guess pippen and 6/6 will have to do....

[SugarHill]

Jordan would do worse with Wade/Kobe than with Pippen

[dunksby]

"The only reason I came out was to play with Kareem and the Lakers."

[3ball]

How is Jordan playing with Kobe or Wade when they're all ball dominant SG's?

jordan isn't ball-dominant, so there's your answer.

the unchangeable fact is that Jordan won with far less than kareem and shaq ever did, which makes him better.

for all the talk about big men being so dominant, they sure needed a hell of a lot more talent to win their rings than Jordan did.

[SugarHill]

jordan isn't ball-dominant, so there's your answer.

the unchangeable fact is that Jordan won with far less than kareem and shaq ever did, which makes him better.

for all the talk about big men being so dominant, they sure needed a hell of a lot more talent to win their rings than Jordan did.

Jordan had less help than 2000 Shaq?

Jordan had less help than 94 Hakeem?

03 Duncan?

[Hey Yo]

This thread is hilarious.

What next "replace MJ with Pete Myers and the Bulls still make the playoffs and 2nd round??????"

oh wait.....

[3ball]

Jordan had less help than 2000 Shaq?

2000 is debateable... i'll give you that... which is why shaq had to be his most dominant ever (MDE) and average 40 PPG in the Finals like Jordan did. but for the rest of Shaq's championships, his cast was easily better than Jordan's.

and again, who cares about the luxury of whether jordan can play with MORE TALENT in kobe or wade - the fact is that kareem and shaq can't win with less talent in Pippen.

just for kicks though, jordan could play with kobe and wade anyway because Jordan was an off-ball player and could also play SF... or, jordan could have just played point guard, which he had already done better than anyone else had ever done it... http://ballislife.com/michael-jordan...er-want-proof/

[Overdrive]

jordan isn't ball-dominant, so there's your answer.

the unchangeable fact is that Jordan won with far less than kareem and shaq ever did, which makes him better.

for all the talk about big men being so dominant, they sure needed a hell of a lot more talent to win their rings than Jordan did.

You think the only difference between the early 2000 Lakers and the 90s Bulls(both incarnations) is just the "sidekick"?

Those Lakers were Shaq+Kobe and then a huge drop off. The '96 Bulls had Kukoc, a Horry type(last min shot taker) in Kerr, Rodman and many more. This is one of the greatest role player cast any championship team ever had. Maybe it's only rivaled by the '87 Lakers.

[ArbitraryWater]

03 Spurs were loaded.. the **** are you talking about?

03 Spurs would beat current Spurs. You're insane if you think otherwise.

2nd best player Stephen Jackson.... LOADED TO THE MAX!!

[3ball]

How is Jordan playing with Kobe or Wade when they're all ball dominant SG's?

how is it you can't see the fallacy of your logic?

who cares about the luxury of whether jordan can play with MORE TALENT in kobe or wade - the fact is that kareem and shaq can't win with LESS talent in Pippen.

but just for kicks though, i'll answer your question - jordan could play with kobe and wade anyway because Jordan was an off-ball player that could play SF... or, jordan could have just played point guard, which he had already done better than anyone else had ever done it... http://ballislife.com/michael-jordan...er-want-proof/

[lilteapot]

Yeah, OP needs to be permabanned right away. Classless piece of shit, using MJ's father's murder as a tool to push his own stupid agenda. ****ing grow up, asshole.

[navy]

Pippen > Durant

As said by 3ball.