Stu Jackson says the new rules were designed to make penetration easier

[HomieWeMajor]

So what kind of D correlates to what type of penetration ? Does more length on D help stop penetration or does it ease it in ?

[3ball]

So what kind of D correlates to what type of penetration ? Does more length on D help stop penetration or does it ease it in ?

as the data shows, players were taller in previous eras anyway:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_lea...ing_experience


"The NBA peaked in height during the 1986–87 season, when the average height was 6 feet 7.62 inches (2.0223 m).

The second and third tallest seasons are the 2002–03 and 1987–88 seasons. In fact, four of the seven tallest seasons occurred in the latter half of the 1980s.

Meanwhile, the NBA's shortest seasons in recent history have been 2006–07 and 2007–08."

[Rose'sACL]

as the data shows, players were taller in previous eras anyway:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_lea...ing_experience


"The NBA peaked in height during the 1986–87 season, when the average height was 6 feet 7.62 inches (2.0223 m).

The second and third tallest seasons are the 2002–03 and 1987–88 seasons. In fact, four of the seven tallest seasons occurred in the latter half of the 1980s.

Meanwhile, the NBA's shortest seasons in recent history have been 2006–07 and 2007–08."

then that should mean that length doesn't impact defense that much given how bad defense was in the 80s.

[3ball]

then that should mean that length doesn't impact defense that much given how bad defense was in the 80s.

Stu Jackson said the rule changes made scoring easier for ALL players - perimeter players, post players, penetrators, at-rim percentages - the rule changes were literally designed to make ALL ASPECTS OF OFFENSE EASIER.

But don't take my word for it - read the interview in the article - it says ALL OF THIS AND MORE.
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[Yao Ming's Foot]

2004 defense has nothing to do with the 80s or 90s

League Average Def Rating

1984 107.6
1994 106.3
2004 102.9

[bluechox2]

which penetration are we talking about here?

[3ball]

2004 defense has nothing to do with the 80s or 90s

League Average Def Rating

1984 107.6
1994 106.3
2004 102.9
2014 106.6

fixed your post.

but you know why it was so low in 2004? that was AFTER the zone had been introduced but BEFORE the new defensive 3 seconds rule - so 2001-2004 was a period of full-fledged zone defenses without the new defensive 3 seconds rule.

the new defensive 3 seconds rule didn't get introduced until 2005 - that rule implemented an "armslength" rule that banned zones in the paint, and this coupled with the hand-check ban caused ORtg to increase the most it ever has (since the inception of the 3-point shot)... the perimeter scoring of ALL perimeter players went through the roof in 2005.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

fixed your post.

but you know why it was so low in 2004? that was AFTER the zone had been introduced but BEFORE the new defensive 3 seconds rule - so 2001-2004 was a period of full-fledged zone defenses without the new defensive 3 seconds rule.

the new defensive 3 seconds rule didn't get introduced until 2005 - that rule implemented an "armslength" rule that banned zones in the paint, and this coupled with the hand-check ban caused ORtg to increase the most it ever has (since the inception of the 3-point shot)... the perimeter scoring of ALL perimeter players went through the roof in 2005.

No one denies that scoring was easier compared to 2001-2004. What relevance does that have to the 80s and 90s? All the rule changes in the world haven't even sniffed the videogame numbers and creampuff defenses those eras produced.

[3ball]

No one denies that scoring was easier compared to 2001-2004. What relevance does that have to the 80s and 90s? All the rule changes in the world haven't even sniffed the videogame numbers and creampuff defenses those eras produced.

you just don't understand the game that's all.

higher offensive rebounding and FT rates increase at team's ORtg in the calculation.

Two-pointers have a higher offensive rebounding and FT rate than 3-pointers, so the higher proportion of two-pointers taken in previous eras caused Team ORtg's (and therefore Opponent DRtg) to be higher than today.

On the flipside, today's game takes far more 3-pointers, which have a lower offensive rebounding and FT rate, and therefore decrease Team ORtg and Opponent DRtg.

[TheMarkMadsen]

So what kind of D correlates to what type of penetration ? Does more length on D help stop penetration or does it ease it in ?

[Hands of Iron]

Penetration occurs with natural ease when you're a handsome mother****er dripping masculinity with an A+ personality. And a MWC.

[3ball]

i fixed the OP - i didn't even have the best quotes in there originally...


NBA.com: Shooting percentages have risen since 2004-05 regardless of location -- at-the-rim shots, short- and deep-mid range and 3-pointers. Does this surprise you, especially the higher percentages from 3-point range?

Stu Jackson: With the rule and interpretation changes, it has become more difficult for defenders to defend penetration, cover the entire floor on defensive rotations and recover to shooters. This has provided more time for shooters to ready themselves for quality shots. With more dribble penetration, ball handlers are getting more opportunities at the rim..



NBA.com: Doesn't the wide-open style benefit certain types of players? For example, wing players vs. frontcourt players?

Stu Jackson: The benefits of an open game are not limited to just perimeter players. An open game can benefit a post player as well. Remember, if the players are spaced wider and using more of the court, then defenses have to play those players closely because they're good shooters. The style actually serves to open up the middle of the floor. If a team has an effective post player, he would have more room to operate in the post.


http://www.nba.com/2009/news/feature...son/index.html

[RoundMoundOfReb]

That's what she said

[SamuraiSWISH]

So what kind of D correlates to what type of penetration ? Does more length on D help stop penetration or does it ease it in ?