Has a top 12 player in any sport...

[JT123]

ever missed the playoffs the last 4 years of their career? Just curious

[Dr Hawk]

Has any Top 12 player in any sport ever lived rent free in so so so so many heads?

[JT123]

Has any Top 12 player in any sport ever lived rent free in so so so so many heads?

What on earth are you talking about?
This thread isn't about any specific one player, it's just me asking an innocent question. Paranoid much?

[Dr Hawk]

What on earth are you talking about?
This thread isn't about any specific one player, it's just me asking an innocent question. Paranoid much?

Oh yeah, sure it is not

[Doranku]

OP doesn't know the difference between 3 and 4.

[TheWinningFam]

These nigguh's so shook, keep bringing up their idol when nobody's even talking about him

[ScalsFan21]

Barry Bonds is absolutely top 12 all-time, and he did this I believe. Baseball is the kind of sport where one individual player can't really move the needle to the extent that they can in basketball especially, or even other sports. Even if they're top 12 all-time.

[COLOR="White"]But yeah more importantly Kobe was a net negative for a very long time while devouring cap and stifling any chance at team growth. [/COLOR]

[Stringer Bell]

You'd get several in baseball. Less playoff spots, and one guy doesn't have the impact in baseball as one guy can in basketball.

[Uchmanmamba24]

ever missed the playoffs the last 4 years of their career? Just curious

OP is Dray N Klay. Wtf is your problem?

[NZStreetBaller]

Nope not 1 that im aware of.

[Mr Feeny]

Kobe I guess.
They did reach the playoffs in 2013 but that was due to Gasol carrying them over the last two games including beating the Spurs in the second to last game of the season to secure a playoff spot.

Come to think of it, Kobe has had a horrific end to his career

[Kenomax]

Kobe I guess.
They did reach the playoffs in 2013 but that was due to Gasol carrying them over the last two games including beating the Spurs in the second to last game of the season to secure a playoff spot.

Come to think of it, Kobe has had a horrific end to his career

So it seems he shouldn't be considered as top 12 any more

[Mr Feeny]

So it seems he shouldn't be considered as top 12 any more

He's probably around 12-13 by consensus but he'll fall further down as the new click start racking up titles. Curry should pass him within 12-24 months.

[Kenomax]

He's probably around 12-13 by consensus but he'll fall further down as the new click start racking up titles. Curry should pass him within 12-24 months.

That's right, he'll also fall because of time aspect. 5 years from now we will be discussing if Kobe is worth being top 20.

[Mr Feeny]

That's right, he'll also fall because of time aspect. 5 years from now we will be discussing if Kobe is worth being top 20.

This is correct. With time, more and more players will surpass him. Soon enough, Kobe will be irrelevant in discussions about the top players all time