How did Parker and Ginobli get drafted so low?

[FKAri]

And how did the Spurs know about them while no one else did?

[WorldWarriors]

And how did the Spurs know about them while no one else did?

Depends on the scouting. Spurs had Duncan so they weren't looking for a franchise player like most other teams. They were looking to improve on their foundation. A lot of teams were looking for top players they were looking for pieces. Kind of like they do now and always have. Was anybody checking for Kawhi?

[Braincells]

GOAT scouting and management.

[tpols]

GOAT scouting and management.

Also goat development.. i don't think either would be anywhere near as good on a shitty team.. or if they went to a team that plays dumb iso superstar ball they mightve turned out like vs pan on the rockets.

[Jon_Koncak]

Because teams didnt trust international players back then.Kings picked Peja at 14 and Kings fans werre booing cause they wanted Jon Wallace Then a wave of successfull international players emerges and we went to the other extreme with Tsikitsvilis and Koroloevs being lottery picks.

[outbreak]

Would Parker and Ginobli look as good as they did on another team? I think they are great players but the spurs system also does a great job of finding the correct role for players and having a cast that compliments their weaknesses.

[FKAri]

It's not just them tho. It just seems that lightning keeps hitting. It's not luck. They're doing something different over there.

Leonard at 15
DeJuan Blair at 37
George Hill at 26
Dragic at 45 (though they traded him for peanuts)
Splitter at 28
Beno Udrih at 28

This is just the last few years and these picks are all steals imo. Sure they've had some duds but from what I'm looking at far less than any other team in the league.

[ClipperRevival]

It's not just them tho. It just seems that lightning keeps hitting. It's not luck. They're doing something different over there.

Leonard at 15
DeJuan Blair at 37
George Hill at 26
Dragic at 45 (though they traded him for peanuts)
Splitter at 28
Beno Udrih at 28

This is just the last few years and these picks are all steals imo. Sure they've had some duds but from what I'm looking at far less than any other team in the league.

They obviously have a great scouting department. All you need is one guy who can spot the talent. Don't know who that is but someone in that scouting department knows what the hell he's doing.

Also, the first things scouts look for is rare athleticism and/or siz. Parker or Manu never had that. They were quick in spots but nothing that stood out. So they had to dig deeper and look for other signs.

[Haymaker]

I still don't know why they traded Scola and Dragic.

[r0drig0lac]

who saw Ginobili play for the Argentina national team and Virtus Bologna since 2000 knew he would be a monster in any team, but the scouting SA is above the others

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Rob Hennigan was credited as playing a big role in some of these drafts steals too. He's whiffed on Nicholson and Harkless but hopefully his other choices in Orlando stick. He was also involved in the westbrook, ibaka, harden and bledsoe choices. Don't think he was in SA for parker and ginobli but i believe he was for some of the other players mentioned here.

[ClipperRevival]

who saw Ginobili play for the Argentina national team and Virtus Bologna since 2000 knew he would be a monster in any team, but the scouting SA is above the others

You're probably right in that a lot of other scouts would've been high on Manu had they saw him. And another aspect of good scouting is scouring the planet to look for that diamond in the rough. How many teams were willing to send a scout to Argentina and take the time to watch Manu play over several games and interview his coaches, etc?

[iamgine]

Everyone who come to the NBA has enormous talent. It's all about developing these talents. It's not like Tony Parker has more talent at the beginning than say...Kwame Brown.

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Everyone who come to the NBA has enormous talent. It's all about developing these talents. It's not like Tony Parker has more talent at the beginning than say...Kwame Brown.

that's true. I think if some of the big name draft busts had landed in a different situation they could have been good picks. Too much emphasis placed on a player when they bust and not enough blame on a team for not developing the player correctly in some cases.

[IncarceratedBob]

Honestly how many great French/Mexican NBA players have there been before? Very few if many. Nobody thought a Frenchman like Parker or a Mexican like Ginobili could be legitimate NBA players. That's why they fell.