Which one was overrated John Stockton Or Karl Malone?

[CeoTypeDoe619]

They both are considered top 20 players of all time. And probably would be ranked higher if they could have won something.
They both played together in their prime and couldnt win ONE measly Championship. Yes their was Scottie & Jordan but they couldn't steal one series from them? And lets not blame Jordan because its not like Jazz were constantly coming out the West. If you grab any small & big from the top 20 let them play in their prime they would easily be a Dynasty.
Which leaves me to believe one or possibly both were overrated.
Yes Stockton has crazy assist,steals and Malone Points, Boards
But we all know stats can always be very misleading

[plowking]

Stockton. People like to talk how the system helped Nash, well same goes here.

Karl Malone was just a beast. He would have averaged 28/11 where ever he went in his prime.

[LAClipsFan33]

When people start saying stupid sh*t like Stockton may have been better than Magic then he's overrated. When people stay in their lane its cool.

Malone...I've never heard people overrate Malone. Sometimes he is underrated

[Toizumi]

Neither.

Both are top 10 players at their position all time.

[Force]

Neither was overrated.

Karl Malone was frickin awesome

[High Roller]

Neither.

Both are top 5 players at their position all time.

Fixed.

[iamgine]

Yeah it's definitely mind boggling how the Jazz couldn't win the title. Or even contend before 96-97, sometimes losing in first rounds. How did they lose time and time and time again to other teams who definitely had less talent?

And then there's Jerry Sloan, who is obviously considered a good coach to say the least. It's the same situation with MJ, Pippen and Phil. Yet, the Jazz had very different outcome. What gives?

[fefe]

Neither.

Both are top 3 players at their position all time.

FIXED

[JohnnySic]

If anything they are underrated. Stockton and Malone would be the best players at their positions if they were in their prime today.

[fefe]

Malone has a great case for best PF ever.
If you consider Duncan a PF, he is #1 by default, but he is a C to me (and not a top5 ever center at that.).
At PF the competion for all time best for Malone is basically Sir Charles and that's it.

At PG, Magic is considered #1 no contest,
#2 is between Stockton and the big O..

[plowking]

Stockton is most definately not top 3 at his position.

Isiah Thomas, Gary Payton, Oscar Robertson are all better and you could make a case for Archibald.

[Shep]

Stockton is most definately not top 3 at his position.

Isiah Thomas, Gary Payton, Oscar Robertson are all better and you could make a case for Archibald.

don't forget john crotty

[fefe]

don't forget john crotty

Payton is certainly not ahead of Stockton on the All-Time PG list.
Stockton is the better passer, and he even beats Payton in stealing, which was the Glove's trademark. Stockton had the better PG stats, the more achievements and the better carrier. I don't see your case here.

Isiah Thomas has a case based on the 2 rings and finals MVPs (he has no case based on stats or anything else) and Robertson has a case based on stats averages (his scoring numbers are way too high for a PG though, which can be regarded as a negative), but Stockton's carrier total numbers and achievements give him the edge at the PG position in my eyes.

He is like the Kareem of PG's. His carrier numbers will remain untouched, like... forever...
He has 15,806 assists, with the 2nd all time (Kidd) having 10,864.
He has 3,265 steals, with the 2nd all time (Jordan) having 2,514.

[Fallguy20]

Neither.

Both are the top players at their position all time.

Fixxeeedd...
Too far?

[plowking]

Payton is certainly not ahead of Stockton on the All-Time PG list.
Stockton is the better passer, and he even beats Payton in stealing, which was the Glove's trademark. Stockton had the better PG stats, the more achievements and the better carrier. I don't see your case here.

Isiah Thomas has a case based on the 2 rings and finals MVPs (he has no case based on stats or anything else) and Robertson has a case based on stats averages (his scoring numbers are way too high for a PG though, which can be regarded as a negative), but Stockton's carrier total numbers and achievements give him the edge at the PG position in my eyes.

He is like the Kareem of PG's. His carrier numbers will remain untouched, like... forever...
He has 15,806 assists, with the 2nd all time (Kidd) having 10,864.
He has 3,265 steals, with the 2nd all time (Jordan) having 2,514.

What in the hell are better "pg stats"? Payton had better stats.
Stockton had more steals? That's awesome and all, though Payton was twice the defender, hell even more.

Isiah doesn't have a case in stats? 21ppg, 14apg, 5rpg along with 2 steals is better than anything Stockton could dream of doing. And his career averages of 19 and 9 are better than Stockton's.
Also Gary's 24/9/7/2 seasons is better than Stockton has ever done.
Both are more accomplished as well.