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    Gimme Worthy over LBJ. Nebraskanball's Avatar
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    Default Is there anything more overrated than LEBRON taking Cleveland to the Finals?

    He beat the following teams:

    1. Washington Wizards (41-41)
    Best players: Gilbert Arenas, Antawn Jameson, Caron Butler

    2. New Jersey NETS (41-41)
    Best players: past prime Vince Carter, Nenad Krstic, past prime Kidd.

    3. Detroit Pistons (53-29)
    Best players: Rip Hamilton (led in minutes and PPG), Billups (shot 42% on the season), Rasheed Wallace (shot 43% from the field, 32 years old)

    Washington and New Jersey wouldn't have sniffed the playoffs in the West and Detroit was over the hump and would have been a 4 or 5 seed.
    Obviously it's a decent feat...but his supporting cast was as good/if not better than the rest of the teams in the East (outside of Detroit...maybe)

    Kobe would have taken that team to the finals. MJ would have. Shaq would have. Hell, Melo would have a shot with that team.

    And then he got completely embarrassed against the Spurs. Not impressed.

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    Default Re: Is there anything more overrated than LEBRON taking Cleveland to the Finals?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nebraskanball
    He beat the following teams:

    1. Washington Wizards (41-41)
    Best players: Gilbert Arenas, Antawn Jameson, Caron Butler

    2. New Jersey NETS (41-41)
    Best players: past prime Vince Carter, Nenad Krstic, past prime Kidd.

    3. Detroit Pistons (53-29)
    Best players: Rip Hamilton (led in minutes and PPG), Billups (shot 42% on the season), Rasheed Wallace (shot 43% from the field, 32 years old)

    Washington and New Jersey wouldn't have sniffed the playoffs in the West and Detroit was over the hump and would have been a 4 or 5 seed.
    Obviously it's a decent feat...but his supporting cast was as good/if not better than the rest of the teams in the East (outside of Detroit...maybe)

    Kobe would have taken that team to the finals. MJ would have. Shaq would have. Hell, Melo would have a shot with that team.

    And then he got completely embarrassed against the Spurs. Not impressed.
    did u look at LeBron's supporting cast?

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    Default Re: Is there anything more overrated than LEBRON taking Cleveland to the Finals?

    Lebron could have played 1-5 and still win 60+ games. the GOAT!!!


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    Default Re: Is there anything more overrated than LEBRON taking Cleveland to the Finals?

    Quote Originally Posted by dh144498
    Lebron could have played 1-5 and still win 60+ games. the GOAT!!!

    I could have scraped together 40 wins in the East that year.

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    Default Re: Is there anything more overrated than LEBRON taking Cleveland to the Finals?

    Nobody besides maybe Jordan could have taken that team to the Finals. Shaq needed superstar help basically every year he ever won a title.

    Kobe? LeBron led that Cavs team past a Pistons team that not too long ago shut Kobe down in the Finals to the tune of 38.1 FG%. And that was when he had maybe the most stacked team ever in prime Shaq, Malone AND Payton! No effing way would Kobe get them to the Finals. He needs prime Shaq and/or prime Gasol/Odom/Bynum to reach the Finals.

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    Default Re: Is there anything more overrated than LEBRON taking Cleveland to the Finals?

    He was very young. And even though the East sucked its still impressive.

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    Default Re: Is there anything more overrated than LEBRON taking Cleveland to the Finals?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsmoke
    did u look at LeBron's supporting cast?
    Did you look at the teams he played against?

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    Default Re: Is there anything more overrated than LEBRON taking Cleveland to the Finals?

    Daniel Gibson, a rookie 2nd round pick PG was his 2nd option by the time they got to the ECF.

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    Default Re: Is there anything more overrated than LEBRON taking Cleveland to the Finals?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nebraskanball
    Kobe would have taken that team to the finals.


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    Default Re: Is there anything more overrated than LEBRON taking Cleveland to the Finals?

    yes. kobes first three rings and fmvp in 2010. oh and his lifetime achievement mvp award that media gifted him out of condolence.

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    Default Re: Is there anything more overrated than LEBRON taking Cleveland to the Finals?

    Quote Originally Posted by SilkkTheShocker
    Daniel Gibson, a rookie 2nd round pick PG was his 2nd option by the time they got to the ECF.
    Daniel Gibson played 20.1 minutes per game in the playoffs that year. Don't make stuff up. He was the 6th man and took 5 shots a game. LOL.
    Maybe it was because he had a center (Big Z) that was shooting 50% and pulling down 10 boards?
    Gibson was the 10th best player on the team in terms of PER.

    That team was deep, had some quality players, and with Lebron..was as solid a lineup anyone in the East had.

    You Lebron defenders know no bounds.

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    Default Re: Is there anything more overrated than LEBRON taking Cleveland to the Finals?

    Quote Originally Posted by SilkkTheShocker
    Daniel Gibson, a rookie 2nd round pick PG was his 2nd option by the time they got to the ECF.
    Lol i laughed when you said Gibson was the second option. Might as well throw in the waterboy as the third option

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    Default Re: Is there anything more overrated than LEBRON taking Cleveland to the Finals?

    I guess anyone could have won that G5 for the Cavs

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    Default Re: Is there anything more overrated than LEBRON taking Cleveland to the Finals?

    T-Mac would have made it to the Finals with that cast.

    Playing with soft, quickly winded Yao in the West with abysmal surrounding pieces is much harder than getting at least a semi-decent cast in the East.

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    Default Re: Is there anything more overrated than LEBRON taking Cleveland to the Finals?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nebraskanball
    He beat the following teams:

    1. Washington Wizards (41-41)
    Best players: Gilbert Arenas, Antawn Jameson, Caron Butler

    2. New Jersey NETS (41-41)
    Best players: past prime Vince Carter, Nenad Krstic, past prime Kidd.

    3. Detroit Pistons (53-29)
    Best players: Rip Hamilton (led in minutes and PPG), Billups (shot 42% on the season), Rasheed Wallace (shot 43% from the field, 32 years old)

    Washington and New Jersey wouldn't have sniffed the playoffs in the West and Detroit was over the hump and would have been a 4 or 5 seed.
    Obviously it's a decent feat...but his supporting cast was as good/if not better than the rest of the teams in the East (outside of Detroit...maybe)

    Kobe would have taken that team to the finals. MJ would have. Shaq would have. Hell, Melo would have a shot with that team.

    And then he got completely embarrassed against the Spurs. Not impressed.
    You mave have forgotten but that Wizards team didn't have two of their top three players (Arenas and Caron Butler) in the playoffs because they were injured. That team was mediocre to begin with but they were practically a D-League team without Arenas and Butler.

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