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    Default Re: The Warriors Actually Have The Least Stacked Team

    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan

    Klay = Spot up shooter with poor handles, poor vision, poor bball iq, mediocre to lower end defender

    Draymond = Mediocre passer but awful all around offensively, good hustle defense

    Iguodala = Can't hit the broad side of a barn with his jumpshot, does not space the floor, does not hustle, overrated defender, only thing he can do is dunk in transition

    Barnes = piece of human garbage, scores 9 points as a 4th option of offense. Cannot create his own shot. Has a knack for disapearing during big moments

    Barbosa = shitty passer, low bball iq, main asset is shooting open corner 3's and reckless crashes to the basket

    Livingston = decent low post scorer you can rely on for 6 to 8 points a game, mediocre passer, worst floor spacing point guard in the league,

    Bogut = good defender, close to 40 yearss old and has suffered major injuries, his right arm is crooked and does not bend properly, he plays 20 mins a game and scores 2 to 4 points a game

    Ezeli = Stone hands, poor pick and roll defense
    The reason the Warriors still win despite this horrible roster is because THEY HAVE SUPERIOR STRATEGY

    This thread has 15 posts and not a single person mentioned the Warriors' vastly superior strategy to the rest of the league..

    The Warriors have some decent role players, but only a fool thinks they have 73-win talent.. But we have a lot of fools that like basketball these days.

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    Default Re: The Warriors Actually Have The Least Stacked Team

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    The reason the Warriors still win despite this horrible roster is because THEY HAVE SUPERIOR STRATEGY

    This thread has 15 posts and not a single person mentioned the Warriors' vastly superior strategy to the rest of the league..

    The Warriors have some decent role players, but only a fool thinks they have 73-win talent.. But we have a lot of fools that like basketball these days.
    No, no.

    It's BOTH. They have the perfect strategy but without the rosters talent, it wouldn't work.

    See, they have a roster filled with incredibly high IQ players, who have the ability to quickly catch the ball, make the right decisions, and have the coordination and TALENT to execute perfectly. It's the coordination and IQ of the team that makes them great! No black holes! They rarely fumble the ball around or wait to long to make the right pass! It just happens naturally because they have a roster full of incredibly TALENTED/VERSATILE players who can both catch, shoot, finish, and play defense!

    Best team ever!

    If it's just the strategy.. why isn't every team copying it? BECAUSE THEY CAN'T! THEY DON'T HAVE NEAR THE TALENT OR IQ - DUH!!!!!!!!

    In the Warriors case...the talent CREATED the strategy! Not the other way around!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiiiiNG

    It's BOTH. They have the perfect strategy but without the rosters talent, it wouldn't work.

    [COLOR="darkRed"]they have a roster filled incredibly high IQ players, who have the ability to quickly catch the ball, make the right decisions[/COLOR]
    The COACHES create the plays - your post sounds like you think PLAYERS are the ones out there making up those plays on the fly.

    All those pretty plays are designed by the COACHES - the biggest factor in the play's success is the strategic quality of the play, not the players executing it.

    A predictable pick-n-roll play executed by Lebron James won't have the same success as a play executed by Patty Mills and Danny Green that uses off-ball movement and misdirection before the screen-roll.


    Quote Originally Posted by KiiiiNG

    the coordination and TALENT to execute perfectly.
    And it's a lot more complicated than you realize.. Some players have styles more conducive for certain types of plays - today's Spurs and Warriors, and also the 90's Bulls employed equal-opportunity offenses, which requires quick decisions and doesn't allow extended dribbling..

    MJ and Curry's off-ball skill allows the team to execute these offenses better than Lebron's ball-dominance does.. Of course, Lebron has never operated in an equal-opportunity offense, but after 13 years that isn't coincidence - his ball-dominant style isn't conducive for it and this dissuades coaches from trying to go against this.

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    Default Re: The Warriors Actually Have The Least Stacked Team

    Steph Curry is mad underrated.. I agree.

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    While the OP is right that the Warriors aren't as stacked as the other 4 teams mentioned, they are still a great team and probably the 5th most stacked in the league.

    They also play together very well, have great coaching, and the best player in the world on their team. They are the most exciting team to watch, along with OKC, when Curry is playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheImmortal

    Steph Curry is mad underrated.. I agree.
    It's the same thing with MJ - other than Pippen, the Bulls had a bunch of glorified role players just like the Warriors:


    - Horace Grant was an 12/9 play-finisher

    - Kerr/Paxson/BJ were Redick-style spot-up shooters averaging 7-12 ppg

    - Cartwright/Longley were 8 ppg/0.5 blk centers who just took up space

    - Rodman wasn't all-star or all defense; he averaged 4/8 in 97' Playoffs and didn't start in 98' playoffs

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    Default Re: The Warriors Actually Have The Least Stacked Team

    Agree 100%

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    Default Re: The Warriors Actually Have The Least Stacked Team

    When the Warriors owner comes out and says "we're light years ahead of the competition"

    Do you think he's talking about the Warriors' talent, or their strategy/organization?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KiiiiNG
    No, no.

    It's BOTH. They have the perfect strategy but without the rosters talent, it wouldn't work.

    See, they have a roster filled with incredibly high IQ players, who have the ability to quickly catch the ball, make the right decisions, and have the coordination and TALENT to execute perfectly. It's the coordination and IQ of the team that makes them great! No black holes! They rarely fumble the ball around or wait to long to make the right pass! It just happens naturally because they have a roster full of incredibly TALENTED/VERSATILE players who can both catch, shoot, finish, and play defense!

    Best team ever!

    If it's just the strategy.. why isn't every team copying it? BECAUSE THEY CAN'T! THEY DON'T HAVE NEAR THE TALENT OR IQ - DUH!!!!!!!!

    In the Warriors case...the talent CREATED the strategy! Not the other way around!
    I agree. This strategy only works with Steph Curry. These other teams do not have the talent of Steph Curry so their attempts at mimicking Golden State doesn't work. Other teams have already tried and failed. (See Indiana).

    Steph Curry is the key to Golden State's strategy and success.

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    Default Re: The Warriors Actually Have The Least Stacked Team

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    When the Warriors owner comes out and says "we're light years ahead of the competition"

    Do you think he's talking about the Warriors' talent, or their strategy/organization?
    ref treatment tbh.

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    Default Re: The Warriors Actually Have The Least Stacked Team

    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan

    I agree. This strategy only works with Steph Curry.
    And Klay Thompson - it's their 3-point prowess SPECIFICALLY that allows the Warriors' offense to be executed at a championship level.

    It appears that offenses with championship-caliber strategy can only be executed at a championship level by great players - similar to the Warriors' offense only working with Curry and Klay's 3-point prowess, the triangle only worked with Shaq, MJ or Kobe.

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    Default Re: The Warriors Actually Have The Least Stacked Team

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    And Klay Thompson - it's their 3-point prowess SPECIFICALLY that allows the Warriors' offense to be executed at a championship level.

    It appears that offenses with championship-caliber strategy can only be executed at a championship level by great players - similar to the Warriors' offense only working with Curry and Klay's 3-point prowess, the triangle only worked with Shaq, MJ or Kobe.
    After the other night's performance where Klay Thompson was 0/7 from 3 point range we can see the writing on the wall that shows that Klay Thompson's 3 point shooting is created as a bi-product of Steph Curry's play. Curry and Klay's 3 point ability catalyzes the offense but Klay's 3 point ability is catalyzed by Curry. The superior strategy of the Warriors begins at the top with Steph Curry, who is a one of a kind and a truly irreplaceable player.

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    Default Re: The Warriors Actually Have The Least Stacked Team

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    It's the same thing with MJ - other than Pippen, the Bulls had a bunch of glorified role players just like the Warriors:


    - Horace Grant was an 12/9 play-finisher

    - Kerr/Paxson/BJ were Redick-style spot-up shooters averaging 7-12 ppg

    - Cartwright/Longley were 8 ppg/0.5 blk centers who just took up space

    - Rodman wasn't all-star or all defense; he averaged 4/8 in 97' Playoffs and didn't start in 98' playoffs

    I agree that there was a huge drop off after Jordan and Pippen. The Bulls never stacked 3 or 4 superstars together like Lebald's teams

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    Default Re: The Warriors Actually Have The Least Stacked Team

    Literally no one is shocked that a guy who played with MJ, PJ, and Pop is a good coach able to lead a team to 73 wins.

    Literally not one single person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sd3035
    While the OP is right that the Warriors aren't as stacked as the other 4 teams mentioned, they are still a great team and probably the 5th most stacked in the league.

    They also play together very well, have great coaching, and the best player in the world on their team. They are the most exciting team to watch, along with OKC, when Curry is playing.
    agreed. they are stacked compared to the next tier of teams which aren't really contenders.

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