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    Default Re: What's up with people flying Confederate flags?

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chewing
    What do Republicans have to do with oppression and slavery??
    Quite a bit

    This should help
    https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/stat...31633998897154

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    Default Re: What's up with people flying Confederate flags?

    OP got bit by fake news.

    Shame.

    A lot of people in that war fought for tradition and independence, not slavery.

    And people that use the flag probably come from families that fought in the war and possibly died.

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    Default Re: What's up with people flying Confederate flags?

    Quote Originally Posted by LostCause

    It doesn

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    Default Re: What's up with people flying Confederate flags?

    [QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]It doesn

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    Default Re: What's up with people flying Confederate flags?

    Quote Originally Posted by stalkerforlife
    OP got bit by fake news.

    Shame.

    A lot of people in that war fought for tradition and independence, not slavery.

    And people that use the flag probably come from families that fought in the war and possibly died.
    It was over a year ago now, so unfortunately I can't say I am able to link you to the specific resources... but I went through several different accounts, and the motivations for that war seemed pretty clear.

    What traditions were under threat besides slavery? What purpose did the southern states have for seeking independence, aside from the preservation of their massive slave-labor economies? Money is always at the root of these things... and there was an absolutely gargantuan amount of difference in the money to be made with or without slave labor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prometheus
    It was over a year ago now, so unfortunately I can't say I am able to link you to the specific resources... but I went through several different accounts, and the motivations for that war seemed pretty clear.

    What traditions were under threat besides slavery? What purpose did the southern states have for seeking independence, aside from the preservation of their massive slave-labor economies? Money is always at the root of these things... and there was an absolutely gargantuan amount of difference in the money to be made with or without slave labor.
    Interestingly enough, this is also covered in the above linked thread
    https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/stat...56940117635072

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    Default Re: What's up with people flying Confederate flags?

    Quote Originally Posted by LostCause
    Everything you'd want to know is in that thread, the guy (A renowned historian who studies this particular subject) even laid it all out in chronological order, basically. Anyway, to be more specific, this particular thread should help
    https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/stat...08389152026625

    Republicans had a lot to do with oppression. Them shifting the entire blame for it to democrats is what's known as a half truths. The other half implicates them as being part of it too, which is historically proven

    If you'd rather just repeat Fox News talking points go ahead, but that doesn't take the place of facts



    So you’re basically saying that both parties had a lot to do with oppression equally?? Just come out and say that instead of just labeling Republicans. When you solely name Republicans and not mention the name of the other party, you’re being disingenuous.

    And find me a Republican today who is oppressing anyone.

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    Default Re: What's up with people flying Confederate flags?

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chewing



    So you’re basically saying that both parties had a lot to do with oppression equally?? Just come out and say that instead of just labeling Republicans. When you solely name Republicans and not mention the name of the other party, you’re being disingenuous.
    Where'd the bolded come from?

    At no point did I take sides or attempt to make any group look better than the other on this issue, I just pointed out Republicans have gone to great lengths to obscure and hide the history that shows they were very involved in oppression/slavery and maintaining it, and they also have history opposing Civil Rights

    It's disingenuous to claim I said something I didn't. I even clearly labeled it as half truths in my last post to you, didn't I?

    And find me a Republican today who is oppressing anyone.
    It's harder today for them to actually do it in the same way they could in the past but there's quite a lot of them who believe certain groups should be oppressed, though saying that it depends on what you consider oppression as I'm 100% quite a few groups would tell you they're being oppressed in one way or another

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    Default Re: What's up with people flying Confederate flags?

    The Stars and Bars are Whiteys way of saying to African Americans, it's our country, not yours.

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    Default Re: What's up with people flying Confederate flags?

    Quote Originally Posted by Long Duck Dong
    It's the same as waving a Mexican flag or symbol of Native Americans.


    No. No it

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    Why is patty chewtoy acting like he wouldn’t have been a democrat back in the 1800s

    We all know he would have been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3
    Why is patty chewtoy acting like he wouldn’t have been a democrat back in the 1800s

    We all know he would have been.

    You’re wrong.

    Hell, if Ilhan Omar herself was a Republican, I’d want her to run for President. Society’s biggest differences nowadays is not on what we look like, but in our politics and our beliefs. We’re tribal. Skin color and background is irrelevant and elementary.

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    Default Re: What's up with people flying Confederate flags?

    The rebel flag is a symbol of being a loser since the south lost the war. People who feel like losers fly that flag to let everyone else know how they view themselves.

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    Default Re: What's up with people flying Confederate flags?

    Quote Originally Posted by Long Duck Dong
    It's the same as waving a Mexican flag or symbol of Native Americans. Only recently has it been demonized by SJWs and people that have a need to feel victimized.
    Except Mexico is an actual country with rich heritage

    The confederacy was a rebel state that wasn

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    [QUOTE=CelticBaller]Except Mexico is an actual country with rich heritage

    The confederacy was a rebel state that wasn

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