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    Default Re: Is Tom Brady the GOAT?

    Quote Originally Posted by egokiller
    Not by lebronstan logic. Showing up = winning, remember? Why can this only apply to lebron and not Jim Kelly?

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    Default Re: Is Tom Brady the GOAT?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlternativeAcc.
    Except Mahomes stats are better and will shit on Brady's stats.. and winning is predicated on defense/coaching

    Mahomes was a coinflip away from winning a superbowl his 1st season as starter on a bottom 5 defense. (which obviously has never been or never will be done). Mahomes was and is carrying Kansas City, whereas many years Brady was just along for the ride

    But keep playing the "winner" angle against a QB in his 2nd year who was a coin flip away from winning last year with an atrocious defense

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    Default Re: Is Tom Brady the GOAT?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
    Aikman was a #1 overall pick and was putting up pro-bowl numbers when Dallas went 6-10, Montana was a pro-bowler with KC and led them to the AFC Championship game when he left SF. Bradshaw led the entire league in TD passes in '82 when the Steelers dynasty was over. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
    1. Aikman's stats his first three years were not that impressive:

    GM ATT CMP PCT YRDS TD INT LNG RTG
    1989 DAL 11 293 155 52.9 1,749 9 18 75 55.7
    1990 DAL 15 399 226 56.6 2,579 11 18 61 66.6
    1991 DAL 12 363 237 65.3 2,754 11 10 61 86.7

    2. Montana did make the Pro Bowl in 93, but his stats weren't that impressive:

    1993 KC 11 298 181 60.7 2,144 13 7 50T 87.4

    You are right about Bradshaw (leading the league in TD's), but he still had a strong supporting cast with Swann, Stallworth, Franco, Cunningham, and Jimmy Smith.

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